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News New Park Entrance coming to Epcot
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Because they’re not nearly as bad.
jt04
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When we take over we'll fix all of it.
James Alucobond
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Soarin' would definitely be last on my list. I'd sooner lop off the top of the Dolphin triangle and topple the Swans.
TikibirdLand
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you could put the busses on a dedicated path, maybe something thin that you could raise off the ground. IIRC, Bob Gurr designed something like that back in the 50's. It would be so cool!
jt04
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Swalphin has a certain French aesthetic I can accept. I have only ever noticed them when deliberately looking. I was more concerned at the time about the intrusion of non-Disney projects on property. But they've grown on me.
That’s possibly why I accept them. The whimsical design to me kind of fits in with the romantic expression of Showcase.
I first saw them completed in June 1990 when brand new with minimal landscaping around them and Gateway. They just seemed to... fit. Despite seeing the park without them too.
Movielover
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Because that is not it's main function. The skyliner was made to take people from those resorts to the 2 parks to eliminate buses from those routes. It was not meant as a direct line from Epcot to DHS, for that they have the walking path.
jt04
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I just think they could have handled it more creatively. Just my opinion.
Phicinfan
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I don't live in the area, but I assume what they did was due to ride-away capability and reducing the amount of traffic interference. I will also laugh if you think there is any way they would install light rail, when it is a given they won't expand the monorail system they have now.
What I am looking for is the next step, what that will be to tie in DAK.
Phicinfan
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Granted, but you have to remember the drive for this was to eliminate busses. So a dedicated bus line would not meet that need.
EeyoreFan#24
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I guess the argument could be made that increasing the efficiency of the fleet would decrease the overall fleet need, but overall I agree it’s just prolonging the overall goal of bus elimination.(or as close as possible)
James Alucobond
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My opinion is probably unfairly colored by the fact that I work in a Michael Graves-designed building on a daily basis, so I can safely be ignored on the matter.
Of the list of visual "irritants" present in and around Epcot, the Swan and Tuna are not on that list, for me at least. Nor is the ToT.
sedati
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Sorry, what now?
Whimsy in EPCOT? Is it really MK2.0 after all? Elsas a problem, but maybe a fifty foot monochromatic troll statue looming over the Norway pavilion would be A-O.K?
Swan and Dolphin decimated any sense of scale in World Showcase, as did Yacht and Beach Club. The hotels are fine, but the views from inside the park are and have always been horrendous (I too saw them bare and new.) Swans as big as the Eiffel Tower? What makes those hotels worse is the we can see normal sized windows on normal sized floors standing behind buildings with diminished effects in play. Our brain is basically confronted with a background element that reads as larger than the foreground.
Any windowless structure is better though neither would be best.
From the outset I have always found the forced perspective ratio too severe in World Showcase especially for the sheer size of the lagoon. In Magic Kingdom these elements work because we are amongst them- except for the far larger castle we aren't seeing the standard 10:9:8 three story buildings from half a mile away. Things only got worse when the trees around them matured and the whole thing looked even more like a bunch of miniatures. The resorts were the final blow to any visual cohesion. There's so much furur now, but the nails were in the coffin thirty years ago. Build a mountain range, otherwise I don't know if the promenade can ever look right again.
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James Alucobond
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Don't worry. The handpie fountains will save us from suffering the inhumanity of disproportionate sense of scale by blocking all things all the time.
sedati
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The Eiffel Tower was an eyesore ... until it became indispensable
Most people think of the Eiffel Tower as an international icon, the symbol of France, and maybe sometimes, even King's Dominion amusement park.
michaelkbrantley.com
only supposed to stand for 20 years.
A group of writers (of course) and artists started complaining and referred to the Tower as “the useless and monstrous Eiffel Tower.” One critic called it “a lamp post stuck in the belly of Paris” and another referred to it as “a giant ungainly skeleton.”
Adding such a structure to the lagoon pays homage to Parisian history and architectural contrasts- it just kinda... fits.
'Points of Light' in place on the underside of Spaceship Earth for EPCOT'S 'Beacons of Magic' show
'Points of Light' in place on the underside of Spaceship Earth for EPCOT'S 'Beacons of Magic' show
Walt Disney Imagineering is moving quickly to complete the new lighting effects at Spaceship Earth.
www.wdwmagic.com
Kamikaze
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So in one post you both asked for 'small segments' of a transport solution and complained about non-direct segments of a transport solution.