News New Park Entrance coming to Epcot

JohnD

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The lack of using innovations effectively is as bad as Tomorrowland terrace and stitch not being used...great real estate....how does Chapek sleep.

You can keep saying that. It doesn’t change guest behavior. Maybe you can lament FP+ for that. It’s a possible contribution. Need to make your hour window for your first three. No time to linger in Innoventions. Otherwise, it must be guests’ fault for not hanging out in those buildings. Did it ever occur to you it could be guests didn’t spend time in there? So why spend budget on areas guests aren’t visiting?
 

DVCakaCarlF

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You can keep saying that. It doesn’t change guest behavior. Maybe you can lament FP+ for that. It’s a possible contribution. Need to make your hour window for your first three. No time to linger in Innoventions. Otherwise, it must be guests’ fault for not hanging out in those buildings. Did it ever occur to you it could be guests didn’t spend time in there? So why spend budget on areas guests aren’t visiting?
I agree, in a sense...most people don’t “linger” anymore, unless it’s for free WIFI.

However, Cosmic Ray’s is always slammed, and I think having Tomorrowland Terrace would offset the crowds. There’s no reason for the stitch slot to sit unused. Make it a shop, restaurant, something.

I think a true park setting with benches, fountains, green spaces, etc. would be an appropriate replacement for the Bob & Bob Bar and Sauna.
 

nicb88

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As for putting the festival centre in there, I still think the structures just read too much like a hotel convention centre. Of all the Epcot nostalgia, the defence of these buildings as aesthetically pleasing is the one that puzzles me the most.

Perhaps the buildings themselves are no longer aesthetically pleasing (they were more so in the past), but from a design and spatial perspective, and the environment they created and the feelings guests felt in that environment when added to the music, fountain and landscaping, they were definitely pleasing.
 

Bocabear

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I'm an EPCOT Center purist (my blog proves it), but even I was hoping they'd demolish both sides of Innoventions and open the whole thing up.
and then you pass under the Sphere and are faced with a vast open nothingness? I can go to a city park and not pay $100 to enter... The buildings just need new, refreshed and interesting attractions in them...And the footprints are large enough for actual rides
 

michmousefan

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I'm not a huge fan of the style of the Communicore buildings myself, but hey, if there were entertaining, compelling, "OMG you-gotta-see-this" attractions within them, it wouldn't matter if the structures were constructed from plywood and bailing wire. It's not the buildings, but the degree of the ATTRACT-ions inside.
 

marni1971

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I'm not a huge fan of the style of the Communicore buildings myself, but hey, if there were entertaining, compelling, "OMG you-gotta-see-this" attractions within them, it wouldn't matter if the structures were constructed from plywood and bailing wire. It's not the buildings, but the degree of the ATTRACT-ions inside.
Let’s be honest over the last five or so years the company hasn’t had any interest in them. North west could have held a sizeable dark ride.
 

michmousefan

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Let’s be honest over the last five or so years the company hasn’t had any interest in them. North west could have held a sizeable dark ride.
Has it only been five years of disinterest? Feels like ten or fifteen, with the endless band-aids of various Innoventions half-hearted attempts at "something something edutainment."
 

wdwmagic

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One of the best things about the new entrance is that the trees hide much of the absolutely filthy monorail beam.

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tirian

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That arguably fit the theme, though, since you were supposed to be exploring movies which were filmed on sound stages, and the whole park was at least somewhat built around that concept.

It's harder to make that argument with MMRR since you're supposed to be entering a cartoon world which (obviously) isn't filmed on a sound stage.
Maybe if we consider it a tribute to low-budget TV animation instead of Mickey’s theatrical hits?
 

jt04

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Maybe if we consider it a tribute to low-budget TV animation instead of Mickey’s theatrical hits?

So many times people on these boards lamented the demise of 2D animation. Then Disney invents a way to immerse people in the art form and still get criticized. Sheesh. 😕
 

jt04

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It's funnier when you realize they cleaned one of the beams entering the park recently (mid to late last year) too. I think they stopped right outside the entrance.

Some of these random spot cleanings are probably tests. Someday they'll get the formula just right.
 

tirian

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So many times people on these boards lamented the demise of 2D animation. Then Disney invents a way to immerse people in the art form and still get criticized. Sheesh. 😕
Don’t compare those limited-animation things to the fluidity of the classics. It’s like saying Super Friends is the same as Fantasia because they’re both hand-drawn.

Also, no offense to you, but the talking head promo saying “we found a way to put guests into a cartoon!” was a joke. Disney already did that in two fully formed Toontowns (Cali and Tokyo) plus Roger Rabbit’s cartoon spin. That was in the ‘90s. Painted flats and massive unused spaces do not put guests into the world of cartoons.
 

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