News New Park Entrance coming to Epcot

Bocabear

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Yes. And the reason is this. Communicore/Innoventions just became half-empty buildings taking up space. The original concept only worked for about the first 10 years. I would rather the space be opened up with direct access to the attractions in Future World. So if one side is down, so much the better.
They should have never been vacant buildings...They should have created new experiences and attractions within the spaces there... They should have kept all the original trees and water surrounding the buildings...All the complaints about it being a huge concrete wasteland would have never happened if they had just stayed true to the original vision.
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TrainsOfDisney

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They should have never been vacant buildings...They should have created new experiences and attractions within the spaces there... They should have kept all the original trees and water surrounding the buildings...All the complaints about it being a huge concrete wasteland would have never happened if they had just stayed true to the original vision.
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That’s so depressing.... I remember arriving at Epcot in the mornings and getting a pastry, fruit and coffee at the fountain cafe. You used to be able to sit, at actual tables inside the cafe!

Watching the fountain and watching people enter the park while enjoying my “breakfast” was a great way to start the morning!

Same thing at Magic Kingdom Main Street Bakery. And Starring Rolls at MGM. :(
 
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Sir_Cliff

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They should have never been vacant buildings...They should have created new experiences and attractions within the spaces there... They should have kept all the original trees and water surrounding the buildings...All the complaints about it being a huge concrete wasteland would have never happened if they had just stayed true to the original vision.
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I appreciate the symmetry and the whole area certainly looked better with the trees and water. Those buildings are not particularly attractive, though. More than anything, they conjure up visions of suburban industrial parks or conference centres built in the 1970s and 1980s.
 

JohnD

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I appreciate the symmetry and the whole area certainly looked better with the trees and water. Those buildings are not particularly attractive, though. More than anything, they conjure up visions of suburban industrial parks or conference centres built in the 1970s and 1980s.

I have to agree. Even when stuff was in those buildings who went there? Hardly anyone. Oh sure, there were some neat things. And a permanent World's Fair had an appeal for a while when it was the newest thing on property. But 10 years later and forward, it was no longer "new", particularly when Disney-MGM was built then AK. But let's face it with four parks., it's all about the attractions and the WS pavilions at Epcot. No one is going to hang out in those buildings and linger no matter what you put in. Might as well open us the space and provide direct access to the east and west attractions.
 

Bocabear

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I have to agree. Even when stuff was in those buildings who went there? Hardly anyone. Oh sure, there were some neat things. And a permanent World's Fair had an appeal for a while when it was the newest thing on property. But 10 years later and forward, it was no longer "new", particularly when Disney-MGM was built then AK. But let's face it with four parks., it's all about the attractions and the WS pavilions at Epcot. No one is going to hang out in those buildings and linger no matter what you put in. Might as well open us the space and provide direct access to the east and west attractions.
But what if there were attractions in those buildings...Not a World's Fair Exhibit , but actual attractions? They were valuable real estate when the park opened and could have continued had the company invested in attraction development...
 

JohnD

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But what if there were attractions in those buildings...Not a World's Fair Exhibit , but actual attractions? They were valuable real estate when the park opened and could have continued had the company invested in attraction development...

I don't think it mattered what they could have put in. You can pine for the 1980s and 1990s all you want when it was something new. It doesn't change the fact that people went directly to the East and West attractions. If they went in at all, it was an air conditioned shortcut to get to that side of the park. Oh, sure, some might stop at what they were about to walk by. But I highly doubt anyone made directly for whatever was in those in buildings. The mantra, "If you build it, they will come" didn't apply.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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There are always exceptions, of course. When was that?

All throughout innoventions later (post-2000) history. Some (most?) of those attractions that I listed did not overlap.

I’m guessing you think “hardly anyone” visits the wonderful rotating gallery in America either.

It would seem that Disney does think this type of attraction belongs in Epcot, because that’s what they are essentially building in the play pavilion. An IP version of innoventions.
 
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TrainsOfDisney

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The light leak on the backwards portion is awful. This can be fixed with some well placed tarps (take them from SSE).

When did you last ride? The only time I remember it being “awful” was when it first opened. I would tried the light leaks for the working fog effect any day but such is life. :-/
 

Sir_Cliff

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It would seem that Disney does think this type of attraction belongs in Epcot, because that’s what they are essentially building in the play pavilion. An IP version of innoventions.
A notable difference between Play and Innoventions is that it doesn't rely on the corporate sponsorship model that has become largely unworkable. Rightly or wrongly, Disney also doesn't seem to want to be responsible itself for continually refreshing the area with new technology-based exhibits. So, I guess they could have put the Play Pavillion in there. Would that have really been better, though?

As for putting the festival centre in there, I still think the structures just read too much like a hotel convention centre. Of all the Epcot nostalgia, the defence of these buildings as aesthetically pleasing is the one that puzzles me the most.
 

RSoxNo1

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When did you last ride? The only time I remember it being “awful” was when it first opened. I would tried the light leaks for the working fog effect any day but such is life. :-/
October of 2019. It's been awful on any daytime ride and it's an easy fix. All they need to do is hang some dark fabric off the structural steel and it would be fixed, it doesn't need rockwork.
 

UNCgolf

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October of 2019. It's been awful on any daytime ride and it's an easy fix. All they need to do is hang some dark fabric off the structural steel and it would be fixed, it doesn't need rockwork.

I rode it in January and didn't see any light leakage.

Of course, I also had terrible motion sickness and was trying not to throw up, so it's entirely possible I just didn't notice it.
 

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