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Rumor New nighttime show at Epcot

NeedMoreMickey

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The current show needs to be replaced. It’s dated and with all the restaurants and festival kiosk set up around the lake it’s hard to get a spot that you can see the projections on the globe. When Epcot opened I think there was only one restaurant on the water and you could see the America pavilion from across the lake because the theater wasn’t there yet.

I’m interested to know if all the people complaining about putting IPs in the shows are the same people who go to every meet & great available. Since the M&G are so popular with some guest (I’m not a fan) maybe Disney management figures people want the characters in everything. To me having an M&G for every movie isn’t any different than having it the night time shows.
 

brb1006

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Remember when Epcot used to have a show called "Around the World with Mickey Mouse" back in 1998?
 

MrPromey

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It’s seen as an average performer - certainly not a must see - and dated. Park attendance through the day vs those exiting at 930pm is telling (thank your magical tracking bands for that one)
Personally, I would agree with the idea of it being dated. When the show started, the idea of that globe-shaped screen that only showed video over the land masses seemed like a huge technical innovation over the metal ball they projected lasers onto.

Today, I notice how difficult it can be to figure out what's going on in some of those small areas to people who haven't seen it dozens of times and it seems like it should be the whole ball capable of displaying stuff and not just those areas... but making a change like that, aside from costing money on new hardware would, I assume, require them to redo the movie since those clips were easily repeatable across the globe thanks to the edges created by those land masses.

Also, as someone else mentioned, that show was introduced at a time when they weren't hiding so much of the waterfront from view around world showcase and weren't making viewing from some of the only truly good places left a fastpass or upcharge spot.

There are other small things, obviously, but I think a lot of the problems with ROE could have been addressed over the years by making appropriate technical updates here and there to the existing show (and putting a little more long-term thought into that waterfront area) but we all know that's not how they roll.

Unless it's a big enough change for them to do a marketing blitz with, it seems that modernizing anything to keep up with the times is heresy.
 
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rle4lunch

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Personally, I would agree with the idea of it being dated. When the show started, the idea of that globe-shaped screen that only showed video over the land masses seemed like a huge technical innovation over the metal ball they projected lasers onto.

Today, I notice how difficult it can be to figure out what's going on in some of those small areas to people who haven't seen it dozens of times and it seems like it should be the whole ball capable of displaying stuff and not just those areas... but making a change like that, aside from costing money on new hardware would, I assume, require them to redo the movie since those clips were easily repeatable across the globe thanks to the edges created by those land masses.

Also, as someone else mentioned, that show was introduced at a time when they weren't hiding so much of the waterfront from view around world showcase and weren't making viewing from some of the only truly good places left a fastpass or upcharge spot.

There are other small things, obviously, but I think a lot of the problems with ROE could have been addressed over the years by making appropriate technical updates to the existing show (and putting a little more long-term thought into that waterfront area) but we all know that's not how they roll.

Unless it's a big enough change for them to do a marketing blitz with, it seems that modernizing anything to keep up with the times is heresy.
This. RoE is weak sauce and shows its age badly.
 

SteamboatJoe

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In regards to IPs, the receptions by the general public of fan favorite HEA (all IP) and the just OK RoL (no IP) probably tells us all we need to know. We, here, know that, IPs aside, those shows are apples and oranges in comparison to one another. That said, I bet that won't stop the decision makers at Disney from rationalizing that IPs, or the lack thereof, are the difference between a wildly successful (aka merchandisable) show and an average show.
 

Kman101

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In regards to IPs, the receptions by the general public of fan favorite HEA (all IP) and the just OK RoL (no IP) probably tells us all we need to know. We, here, know that, IPs aside, those shows are apples and oranges in comparison to one another. That said, I bet that won't stop the decision makers at Disney from rationalizing that IPs, or the lack thereof, are the difference between a wildly successful (aka merchandisable) show and an average show.
Bingo.
 

Unplugged

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Times change and so do both the guests and the executives who make the calls. Many guests now simply don't grasp today, what the intention of EPCOT was. I loved it for what it was, but the cat was let out of the bag a long time ago regarding the thematic drift, and with all the Executive changes over the years, it's not going back. So, I find aspects that I'm good with, and enjoy that now. Admittedly, after having been to EPCOT many, many times over the years, even I agree with some change as that park can get really hot and you can only shop the same stores and dine the same dining so many times. I believe that's why the festivals are so popular....the food & drink is a change and something different. If some IP can be done without wrecking the general feel of the park, so be it. Something new to do. After all, Ratatouille in France is not out in the open, it's in the back. Nor are the changes in Norway, as they are in dark attraction. At this point, that park will never be what it was, but it also won't be a Magic Kingdom either, so I throw in the towel and am waiting to witness the changes.
 

FigmentJedi

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Yep. The problem is many of those who make decisions (including this one) don’t understand the differences between the parks.
And unfortunately, a lot of newer fans don't either what with discourse like "They should turn Rivers of Light into a Moana show or a recreation of the coronation ceremony from Black Panther" popping up or a YouTuber with a large following making a video about Figment and asking why a DIsney park would ever prominently feature a character that doesn't star in a movie or television show.
 
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