Rumor New Monorails Coming Soon?

Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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rreading said:
So I've been a bit of a monorail defender- why couldn't they replace the carpet/refurb A/C... - but clearly things seem to be falling apart.

I assume Disney is starting to negotiate aggressively about getting this corrected? But even with a new purchase, I would expect 2 years until implementation?
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I would bet the farm that they have been replaced, a number of times over the years. They don't make it a habit of doing that type of repair while Guests are watching. Common sense would dictate that after all these years, everything other then the outside shell has been replaced, the undercarriage and drive systems just wouldn't last this long and still be the original equipment. The carpets would be threadbare and the AC are like every AC in the world... they break down at the most inopportune moment. Again though after 45 visits over 35 years, I have never been in a monorail cabin when the AC wasn't working. Stuff happens. When I drove bus, I would start the day with AC that would freeze meat and within a couple of hours something would break be it compressors or circulation fans. Not often, but, they did and they were working perfectly when put on the road. Somethings cannot be controlled even by pixie dust.
 
imarc

imarc

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Goofyernmost said:
I would bet the farm that they have been replaced, a number of times over the years. They don't make it a habit of doing that type of repair while Guests are watching. Common sense would dictate that after all these years, everything other then the outside shell has been replaced, the undercarriage and drive systems just wouldn't last this long and still be the original equipment. The carpets would be threadbare and the AC are like every AC in the world... they break down at the most inopportune moment. Again though after 45 visits over 35 years, I have never been in a monorail cabin when the AC wasn't working. Stuff happens. When I drove bus, I would start the day with AC that would freeze meat and within a couple of hours something would break be it compressors or circulation fans. Not often, but, they did and they were working perfectly when put on the road. Somethings cannot be controlled even by pixie dust.
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Pixie dust used to be enough, but now kids just don't believe enough anymore.
 
s8film40

s8film40

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Goofyernmost said:
I would bet the farm that they have been replaced, a number of times over the years. They don't make it a habit of doing that type of repair while Guests are watching. Common sense would dictate that after all these years, everything other then the outside shell has been replaced, the undercarriage and drive systems just wouldn't last this long and still be the original equipment. The carpets would be threadbare and the AC are like every AC in the world... they break down at the most inopportune moment. Again though after 45 visits over 35 years, I have never been in a monorail cabin when the AC wasn't working. Stuff happens. When I drove bus, I would start the day with AC that would freeze meat and within a couple of hours something would break be it compressors or circulation fans. Not often, but, they did and they were working perfectly when put on the road. Somethings cannot be controlled even by pixie dust.
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The undercarriage is all original, but yes as you say pretty much everything other than the undercarriage and most of the fiberglass body have either been replaced or refurbished over the years.
 
s8film40

s8film40

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Goofyernmost said:
Yes, sorry, by undercarriage I meant the drive and suspension. The Frame should last forever in the salt-less environment of central Florida.
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Interesting story about the frame though. I was talking to a maintenance person once and he said that they had to cut into it when they were doing some wiring for the new TCS and when they did it was full of water and just came pouring out.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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s8film40 said:
Interesting story about the frame though. I was talking to a maintenance person once and he said that they had to cut into it when they were doing some wiring for the new TCS and when they did it was full of water and just came pouring out.
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Interesting, maybe it might be a good idea to drill a few drainage holes in it to let the water out. Steel in water will last a long time, it's when it gets oxygen that it oxidizes very rapidly. Case in point, the Titanic is still basically there and it has been in water since 1912. Still would be better to either find out where the water got in and seal it or make sure it drains back out or both.
 
DisneyGentlemanV2.0

DisneyGentlemanV2.0

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Goofyernmost said:
Interesting, maybe it might be a good idea to drill a few drainage holes in it to let the water out. Steel in water will last a long time, it's when it gets oxygen that it oxidizes very rapidly. Case in point, the Titanic is still basically there and it has been in water since 1912.
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Some friendly clarifications:

- Water contains dissolved oxygen, so it is pretty difficult to separate the two.
- The RMS Titanic is pretty much a heap of rust - look up the term "rusticles". However, dissolved oxygen at thiose depths is nuch lower than elsewhere.

Water inside the structure is not a good thing for a varety of reasons.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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DisneyGentlemanV2.0 said:
Some friendly clarifications:

- Water contains dissolved oxygen, so it is pretty difficult to separate the two.
- The RMS Titanic is pretty much a heap of rust - look up the term "rusticles". However, dissolved oxygen at thiose depths is nuch lower than elsewhere.

Water inside the structure is not a good thing for a varety of reasons.
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I think I know that or I wouldn't have suggested that the find the leak and seal it or drill drain holes to clear the water out or both. Actually water is 2 parts hydrogen and 1 part oxygen (H2O) so without that oxygen there would be no water. However, if additional oxygen is not introduced the erosion is much slower. Therefore you can find 100 year old cannons fairly well preserved until they are taken out of the water and then they must take special steps to stop massive oxidation. If the frames were not deteriorated to the point of weakness then the frames didn't deteriorate. Of course, we have no idea how long the water had been in the frame, that would make a difference and that will remain an unknown factor.
 
cspencer96

cspencer96

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monothingie said:
The same thing happened while I was onboard monorail green coming back from EPCOT on Tuesday at the TTC. The doors opened, then quickly and without warning closed again. I was able to step back but a little girl in at the rear of the train wasn't so lucky. She got clipped and they had EMS come to evaluate her.

I don't think however, this is a train problem. Since the incident on Red Monorail staff have been very proactive and aggressive with door safety and checking the doors, which often involve them repeatedly opening and closing doors that may appear to open but are closed. Plus also with the new automation system the doors can be opened/closed from multiple locations beyond the control panel on the train. It sounds to me like this incident was two people pushing buttons at the same time.
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The one and only place to open and close doors is from the train. Either on the Pilot’s console, or on the side exterior door control panel like the old days. The button on the platform console does not actually close the doors, it simply tells the pilot he/she is cleared to close them when ready.
 
Robbiem

Robbiem

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disneyC97 said:
I think the MK bus station arrived in the mid to late 90s
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I remember it being there when I visited in August 1991. We stayed at the grosvenor hotel in the hotel plaza and the Disney buses which stopped at the hotel used the bus station. When we went back a few years later the hotel plaza buses were a third party and dropped you at the TTC
 
Tim Lohr

Tim Lohr

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marni1971 said:
That was a WEDway link, not monorail.

Neither the 1976 EPCOT, the 1977 World Showcase, nor any design afterwards was to link to the existing monorail aside from a switch beam.
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