Rumor New Monorails Coming Soon?

BryanM

Member
AR lets you look out and see the real world whilst showing you something more like Aladdin flying alongside the monorail.

This would be absolutely amazing... yet I'm sure outrageously expensive. Although you would think that with Disney's "relationship" with Apple, this would be very doable. One can dream, right?
 

esskay

Well-Known Member
I was referencing the estimated timeframe that we've heard from insiders. (2021-2023)
This is the one occasion where 'insiders' dont really know a lot, because not a lot is happening. It's very much being kept to a select few at this point, simply because as far as the rest of the company is concerned, there is no order, nor any plans to order anything.
 

Brad Bishop

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That would be great for the door windows when someone leans on them.

We all jab Disney, rightfully so in my opinion, for letting the Monorails get to the state that they are. I really wish it weren't the case, though. I really wish that they just kept them up, built extra maintenance bays, bought extra trains, and kept the Monorail running proudly at 99.8% uptime and had that spiel coming out of the regular recording still while you ride the Monorail.

It's literally the difference between the proud technology-driven company of the past and the current IP holding company that also runs some theme parks.
 

Rodan75

Well-Known Member
This is the one occasion where 'insiders' dont really know a lot, because not a lot is happening. It's very much being kept to a select few at this point, simply because as far as the rest of the company is concerned, there is no order, nor any plans to order anything.

Interesting way of saying that.
 

s8film40

Well-Known Member
It feels plausable to me since it somewhat already exists on the train in HP land.
It’s definitely possible, but I don’t think plausible. The HP only has two trains and also I believe they’re just projections, not expensive transparent screens. Then factor in Disney would need more than 1,000 of these for the monorail fleet as well as continuous replacements when they’re damaged or vandalized. I don’t see them budgeting for that when they don’t even budget enough for maintenance and upkeep.
 

Robbiem

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It’s definitely possible, but I don’t think plausible. The HP only has two trains and also I believe they’re just projections, not expensive transparent screens. Then factor in Disney would need more than 1,000 of these for the monorail fleet as well as continuous replacements when they’re damaged or vandalized. I don’t see them budgeting for that when they don’t even budget enough for maintenance and upkeep.

I agree. New monorails could have something like the magic porthole on the cruise ships but this would be limited to maybe one or two ‘windows’ per car, a heads up tpe display would likely be too expensive/ complicated. Another option would be to install some sort of tunnel with projections like the old speed tunnel from Disneylands wedway
 

BalooChicago

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The train in HP land is just screens. It is not AR. AR lets you look out and see the real world whilst showing you something more like Aladdin flying alongside the monorail.

Add a camera - screen displays what is outside (as if looking out a glass window) add AR overlay, and there you have it. Nothing too crazy or expensive and you have AR windows.
 

Mr Disney

Active Member
In the Parks
Yes
The train in HP land is just screens. It is not AR. AR lets you look out and see the real world whilst showing you something more like Aladdin flying alongside the monorail.
Even though the screens in the cabin are DEFINITELY projections on a screen, the glass that faces outward in the hallways are smart glass. When the train departs the station, the glass goes from transparent to opaque allowing the shadow projections to be seen clearly.
 

Lensman

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I don't care about having AR windows. I want safe super-reliable transportation again. I want it to not smell and it would be nice if the windows could be popped open for ventilation on the (hopefully rare) occasions when we have to be rescued by the towing tractor.

Besides, I find the reality of the views from the monorail nice enough to not need augmentation.
 

Disone

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Today I noticed monorail black is out of the maintenance Bay in parked in one of the regular bays. Through the back side of the building you could actually see its nose cone and it looks very shiny and clean. I look forward to seeing it out on the beams soon.
 

lawdogNOLA

Active Member
I don't care about having AR windows. I want safe super-reliable transportation again. I want it to not smell and it would be nice if the windows could be popped open for ventilation on the (hopefully rare) occasions when we have to be rescued by the towing tractor.

Besides, I find the reality of the views from the monorail nice enough to not need augmentation.

Pretty much my view. Hogwarts Express is really a ride taking you to Hogsmeade. A scaled down comparison is how you ride into the Living Seas with the Finding Nemo theme (which nice some nice AR work with the Nemo cast projected onto the actual aquarium windows). For many of us, the monorail is a fun ride, but it is a transport system. It strikes me a massive violation of the KISS principle, especially when you consider that the present monorail has been in service for 28 years, and we know that the lifespans for the monorails are approximately 20. It's one thing to add special effects to PhotoPass pictures and videos, it's one thing to project images onto aquarium glass in a controlled environment; it's a totally different thing to do this on one of the world's busiest monorail systems.
 

Disone

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Pretty much my view. Hogwarts Express is really a ride taking you to Hogsmeade. A scaled down comparison is how you ride into the Living Seas with the Finding Nemo theme (which nice some nice AR work with the Nemo cast projected onto the actual aquarium windows). For many of us, the monorail is a fun ride, but it is a transport system. It strikes me a massive violation of the KISS principle, especially when you consider that the present monorail has been in service for 28 years, and we know that the lifespans for the monorails are approximately 20. It's one thing to add special effects to PhotoPass pictures and videos, it's one thing to project images onto aquarium glass in a controlled environment; it's a totally different thing to do this on one of the world's busiest monorail systems.
20 years is a guideline or minimal expectation. With the right budget you can make them last indefinitely. Hello DL and WDW steam engines. Is it cheap? No. Does it require complete rebuilds occasionally? Sure does. I will second or piggyback off of someones earlier suggestion about the new trains.....

14 really is a great starting number of trains for the new fleet. At the beginning of the life span of the new trains, it may seem excessive. 15 years down the road its going to allow for heavy downtime and maintenance to the individual trains with out downtime or operational sacrifices to the system whole.

With fourteen trains though they should also invest and do it right, and would need to add to the Epcot line a second monorail "round house" to store the trains. Bare minimum of four bays and also a monorail washing facility. These bays should be built with maintenance in mind. Perhaps two of them for heavy maintenance and two of them designed more so around the custodial needs of the system. designed so that a 3rd shift custodial crew could detail clean the insides and all the windows of the trains. Only two a night may not be enough but its far more then what they are doing now.

With the right amount of inventment, they really could make these the last trains that WDW will need to purchase. Not say that the can litterall last forever but honestly, if you can get 100 year old steam engines still working effectively, there is no reason you can't double or triple the life expectancy to 40 or 60 years for monorail.

One side note... saw the wrap on monorail orange. Man that looks good! They have have stumble on a new paint scheme for the trains and I have wondered, as dirty as some of those trains are..... why could they not wrap them in just their original paint design periodically to keep them fresh looking on the outside? Is wrapping them more expensive than repainting them? They seem to wrap them much faster then repainting them. Trains seem to be down a LONG TIME for repaint, but orange got wrapped really quick.
 
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Cesar R M

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Someone was telling me they heard the new monorails may possibly have some special tech in the windows (no it wasn’t a bus driver). If true, it would be cool to see stuff like the fab 5 popping up, Stitch looking in from the top of the monorail or even Aladdin and Jasmin flying by on a magic carpet. I would imagine it could look like the new window displays at DS Planet Hollywood that feature pretty impressive graphics. I took this video from our trip last year.
PS- sorry if someone posted this, I just haven’t seen it.

That tech as a lot of potential!
 

Jonathan Wang

Disney/Monorail Nut
Correct 750 volts of DC powering variable voltage variable frequency propulsion inverters to crank the wheels below. The new trams at MCO are Mitsubishi crystal movers, I believe.
Yea they are Mitsu, they are also not very comfy, which i would assume disney wants to keep for guests. Probably one of the reasons why they wouldnt want to go with mitsu. During all tests of MCO's the bumpyness of their new APM fell within what it was suppose to.

Edit: anyone know whats going on with monorails this morning? someone reported monorails were down, and they stopped all trams from taking people to transportation and ticket center because how backed up it was there.
 

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