Rumor New Monorails Coming Soon?

[Lensman]

I don't disagree with you. But I also believe the monorail itself contributes to the premium cost of the monorail resorts. There's not a lot of difference between the luxuriousness of the Contemporary or the Poly compared to Wilderness Lodge. But, because WL is boat only to the MK and bus only to Epcot, it's about half the cost per night compared to Poly, or about 2/3rds that of the Contemporary.

Oh, I absolutely agree that the monorail is additive to the value of staying at the monorail resorts, but I think it's hard to quantify the value of non-bus transportation. For instance, is WL cheaper because it is boat transportation instead of monorail? Or is it that you have to bus to Epcot? All the MK resorts have to bus to DAK and DHS. The WL doesn't have a view of the fireworks, does it?

Anyway, it's a fine point and I mostly agree with you. I'm just hoping that the Skyliner is successful and results in a renewed interest by TWDC in providing non-bus transportation to the parks. Disney will build a monorail to DHS and DAK if they can get even more premium pricing from the monorail resorts or if it would drive increased attendance for DHS and DAK. Thinking big, if they could build a business case for building a new set of deluxe monorail resorts and DVCs around an Epcot/DHS/DAK loop, it just might support the billion dollars that a new loop would cost. I am pulling that number out of the air, btw. I am neither sure how much a new monorail loop would cost nor how low of a price would be required for financial viability. The only factor I took into account is the rumored $300 million for the Skyliner.

 

[Robbiem]

Oh, I absolutely agree that the monorail is additive to the value of staying at the monorail resorts, but I think it's hard to quantify the value of non-bus transportation. For instance, is WL cheaper because it is boat transportation instead of monorail? Or is it that you have to bus to Epcot? All the MK resorts have to bus to DAK and DHS. The WL doesn't have a view of the fireworks, does it?

Anyway, it's a fine point and I mostly agree with you. I'm just hoping that the Skyliner is successful and results in a renewed interest by TWDC in providing non-bus transportation to the parks. Disney will build a monorail to DHS and DAK if they can get even more premium pricing from the monorail resorts or if it would drive increased attendance for DHS and DAK. Thinking big, if they could build a business case for building a new set of deluxe monorail resorts and DVCs around an Epcot/DHS/DAK loop, it just might support the billion dollars that a new loop would cost. I am pulling that number out of the air, btw. I am neither sure how much a new monorail loop would cost nor how low of a price would be required for financial viability. The only factor I took into account is the rumored $300 million for the Skyliner.

I hope you’re right but I suspect the business case will never stack up for new monorail lines, if it did we would likely be seeing a monorail extension rather than the skyliner although factors such as maintenance facilities etc would skew any business case which didn’t connect to the existing facilities by magic Kingdom. What i would live to see is a PRT system set up in the crescent lake area to shuttle people between epcot, dhs, the various resorts and maybe the epcot monorail, or maybe in the disney springs disie landings keynwest area. That could be something implemented fairly cheaply and would live up to the original epcot concept of innvovation as a proof of concept for a larger roll out

 

[Nubs70]

The new leg (to south terminal) has multiple trains on the beam. The switch at the stations to the other side.

Similar to DTW?

 

[monothingie]

Side note: Bombardier just was awarded the contract for LAX's new APM system. I doubt this will change the timeline of the production of our monorails, but just a heads up.

You can’t have a timeline for production on an order that has not been made.

 

[Rich Brownn]

Similar to DTW?

Not familiar with DTW but if its multiple trains probably

 

[msg7]

You can’t have a timeline for production on an order that has not been made.

I was referencing the estimated timeframe that we've heard from insiders. (2021-2023)

 

[Nubs70]

Not familiar with DTW but if its multiple trains probably

McNamara terminal runs several trains on a cable driven 2 track rail with a switchover.

 

[msg7]

McNamara terminal runs several trains on a cable driven 2 track rail with a switchover.

MCO's new tram is powered by electromagnets (LIM or LSM I believe... Not sure which ones) as opposed to the old ones which have a rail in the center providing power to the train.

 

[Rich Brownn]

MCO's new tram is powered by electromagnets (LIM or LSM I believe... Not sure which ones) as opposed to the old ones which have a rail in the center providing power to the train.

Nope. Its just the third rail is on the side. You can plainly see the tram rides on an elevated track of concrete.

 

[twilight mitsuk]

McNamara terminal runs several trains on a cable driven 2 track rail with a switchover.

similar to Hogwarts express

 

[ABQ]

Nope. Its just the third rail is on the side. You can plainly see the tram rides on an elevated track of concrete.

Correct 750 volts of DC powering variable voltage variable frequency propulsion inverters to crank the wheels below. The new trams at MCO are Mitsubishi crystal movers, I believe.

 

[KrazyKat]

Someone was telling me they heard the new monorails may possibly have some special tech in the windows (no it wasn’t a bus driver). If true, it would be cool to see stuff like the fab 5 popping up, Stitch looking in from the top of the monorail or even Aladdin and Jasmin flying by on a magic carpet. I would imagine it could look like the new window displays at DS Planet Hollywood that feature pretty impressive graphics. I took this video from our trip last year.
PS- sorry if someone posted this, I just haven’t seen it.

 

[msg7]

Nope. Its just the third rail is on the side. You can plainly see the tram rides on an elevated track of concrete.

Huh.. I missed that one I guess... For some reason I remember reading somewhere about electromagnets but it looks like crystal movers do indeed use a 750 v DC rail.

 

[GlacierGlacier]

Someone was telling me they heard the new monorails may possibly have some special tech in the windows (no it wasn’t a bus driver). If true, it would be cool to see stuff like the fab 5 popping up, Stitch looking in from the top of the monorail or even Aladdin and Jasmin flying by on a magic carpet. I would imagine it could look like the new window displays at DS Planet Hollywood that feature pretty impressive graphics. I took this video from our trip last year.
PS- sorry if someone posted this, I just haven’t seen it.

This is the third time this rumor has appeared in this thread.

 

[s8film40]

This is the third time this rumor has appeared in this thread.

Haha, yeah. It totally defies common sense but I guess it sounds exciting so it's managing to get passed around quite a bit.

 

[KrazyKat]

Sorry I didn’t read through 60 plus pages of stuff.
Maybe 50 pages... lol

 

[Brad Bishop]

Someone was telling me they heard the new monorails may possibly have some special tech in the windows (no it wasn’t a bus driver). If true, it would be cool to see stuff like the fab 5 popping up[/MEDIA]

"Ha-ha! I've fallen out of the open door on the Monorail. Heeeeeeeeeeeelp!!!" - Mickey

It would be cool to see Dumbo, Tinkerbell, or Aladdin flying by, though.

 

[montyz81]

Haha, yeah. It totally defies common sense but I guess it sounds exciting so it's managing to get passed around quite a bit.

It feels plausable to me since it somewhat already exists on the train in HP land.

 

[NormC]

The train in HP land is just screens. It is not AR. AR lets you look out and see the real world whilst showing you something more like Aladdin flying alongside the monorail.

 

[JoeCamel]

The train in HP land is just screens. It is not AR. AR lets you look out and see the real world whilst showing you something more like Aladdin flying alongside the monorail.

You mean those backgrounds out the HE windows are not real>>>