Rumor New Monorails Coming Soon?

[twilight mitsuk]

There are no other trains to avoid with the airport trams. They just go back and forth.

sames goes the for the Hogwarts express

 

[monothingie]

Question- I am seeing people post on other sites that Disney has made official announcements / releases that confirm that new monorails have been ordered, but no links.

I know about Gurr's statement, but that is not an official announcement. What I have seen from our insiders on here, they believe something is / may be executed with Bombardier, but no firm details.

Everything else appears speculation / guesswork on our part (which has been pretty good- like with the gondola system)

Am I missing something?

Bob Iger just tweeted “I can has Monorailz”

 

[GCTales]

Bob Iger just tweeted “I can has Monorailz”

Right now if Iger said water was wet, I would probably check myself before I accepted his word

 

[drizgirl]

My daughters (Twin 12s and 15) thought the DL subs were, in order, "lame", "boring" and "that was the dumbest thing Ive ever been on...and Ive seen Stitch".

And my teenage daughter loves the subs, thinks they are charming, and insists on doing them every trip.

 

[lazyboy97o]

sames goes the for the Hogwarts express

Hogwarts Express is even simpler. The two trains are connected, so it is just one system.

 

[junglecruise93]

Just thinking out loud...
What would the cost difference be between a looped system (a la the TTC to Epcot line) vs. a single train back and forth station? I would assume one train versus several and 1/2 of the track (the 'return' part of the loop). Am I missing something?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Question- I am seeing people post on other sites that Disney has made official announcements / releases that confirm that new monorails have been ordered, but no links.

I know about Gurr's statement, but that is not an official announcement. What I have seen from our insiders on here, they believe something is / may be executed with Bombardier, but no firm details.

Everything else appears speculation / guesswork on our part (which has been pretty good- like with the gondola system)

Am I missing something?

Some sites reported Gurr's words as a done-deal contract-is-signed thing. It wasn't. He indicated it was in the works. So, the most that can be said is that WDW is definitely shopping for new monorail cars and they're in a discussion with at least Bombardier.

No reliable insider has said, that I know of, that a contract has been signed and cars have been ordered. They do agree with Gurr in saying that WDW is definitely shopping for them.

 

[geekza]

Im an old guy...I know those rides and have ridden them both more times than I can count. They are old, ugly, slow, cramped and boring. Sorry...nostalgia and length cant save that one. The ride was more valuable for the view than for the actual attraction. Thee was something great about seeing a giant crystal blue lagoon with subs going around. I get it. It was neat. It was/is also firmly rooted in the 1950s and it shows.

My daughters (Twin 12s and 15) thought the DL subs were, in order, "lame", "boring" and "that was the dumbest thing Ive ever been on...and Ive seen Stitch".

To each their own, but IMHO and the opinions of my Disney obsessed family, it is/was a ride that is far past its time, except for those with a nostalgia connection.

I'd be totally down for a copy of the Tokyo waterless submarine ride. If you've never seen it, it's kind of a cross between the old 20K ride and the Peter Pan ride system. Very effective.

But I digress. I do think the monorails serve a valuable function and are indelibly tied to WDW. Here's hoping they are able to get them back into tip-top shape.

 

[drod1985]

I wish these new cars came with a monorail expansion as well. I imagine the Skyliner kills any possibility of connecting the Epcot Monorail line to Hollywood Studios.

 

[geekza]

I wish these new cars came with a monorail expansion as well. I imagine the Skyliner kills any possibility of connecting the Epcot Monorail line to Hollywood Studios.

I think if that was ever considered, it would have been back when Disney/MGM Studios was being built. At this point, it doesn't make much sense, sadly.

 

[msg7]

Question- I am seeing people post on other sites that Disney has made official announcements / releases that confirm that new monorails have been ordered, but no links.

I know about Gurr's statement, but that is not an official announcement. What I have seen from our insiders on here, they believe something is / may be executed with Bombardier, but no firm details.

Everything else appears speculation / guesswork on our part (which has been pretty good- like with the gondola system)

Am I missing something?

*cough* @Rteetz *cough* rumor update?

 

[ppete1975]

Still amazes me, that the Orlando Intentional Airport, has (and HAS HAD) fully automatic trains for years now and Disney can't get this right.

Even more amazing when you think..

Disney has a IN HOUSE dept that wrote the software for test track, which does a TON more stuff than a Monorail would be required to do.. uses more or less the same concepts (location of car on track, speed, seat-belt status, location of other cars on the track, etc) and yet they still cant get this right.

Disneys worked fine for decades, I think they just waited a bit too long. Personally I think when they went automated they should have bit the bullet. Also orlandos are much newer and the older ones recently replaced.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_International_Airport_People_Movers

 

[ppete1975]

I'd be totally down for a copy of the Tokyo waterless submarine ride. If you've never seen it, it's kind of a cross between the old 20K ride and the Peter Pan ride system. Very effective.

But I digress. I do think the monorails serve a valuable function and are indelibly tied to WDW. Here's hoping they are able to get them back into tip-top shape.

I agree and could fit into tomorrowland (more paris style) if done right, and throw in a few nostalgic nods to the original 20,000 leagues would make lots happy. Stitch is too small so not sure where they would put it.

 

[msg7]

Side note: Bombardier just was awarded the contract for LAX's new APM system. I doubt this will change the timeline of the production of our monorails, but just a heads up.

 

[Rteetz]

*cough* @Rteetz *cough* rumor update?

Nothing new yet...

 

[GhostHost1000]

wonder if we could get the lego store at Disney Springs to build some temporary ones for us?

 

[NormC]

How many DVC resorts must we suffer before infrastructure matters?

The same number of non DVC resorts. The infrastructure is based on volume of people not how they paid to stay there.

 

[Rich Brownn]

There are no other trains to avoid with the airport trams. They just go back and forth.

Even attractions are not an entirely good comparison. A transit system has to be more flexible. Certain attractions can and do ‘cascade’ into a shut down if there is a delay loading or unloading a train. The monorail needs to be able to handle delays in real time, not shut down and be manually reset.

The new leg (to south terminal) has multiple trains on the beam. The switch at the stations to the other side.

 

[Lensman]

The same number of non DVC resorts. The infrastructure is based on volume of people not how they paid to stay there.

But I wonder if it could depend on how *much* they paid to stay there? The monorail resorts get a premium not just because they are on the monorail but because they are [relatively] luxurious. With CBR, Pop, and Animation resorts, Disney will get to see how much of a premium they can get for convenient access to two parks that aren't the Magic Kingdom.

A good result (for TWDC in returns on building the Skyliner) would cement the business case for transportation infrastructure being a good business investment and we could finally start seeing the decline of buses as a primary means of transportation in WDW. Here's to hoping!

 

[Monorail_Orange]

But I wonder if it could depend on how *much* they paid to stay there? The monorail resorts get a premium not just because they are on the monorail but because they are [relatively] luxurious. With CBR, Pop, and Animation resorts, Disney will get to see how much of a premium they can get for convenient access to two parks that aren't the Magic Kingdom.

A good result (for TWDC in returns on building the Skyliner) would cement the business case for transportation infrastructure being a good business investment and we could finally start seeing the decline of buses as a primary means of transportation in WDW. Here's to hoping!

I don't disagree with you. But I also believe the monorail itself contributes to the premium cost of the monorail resorts. There's not a lot of difference between the luxuriousness of the Contemporary or the Poly compared to Wilderness Lodge. But, because WL is boat only to the MK and bus only to Epcot, it's about half the cost per night compared to Poly, or about 2/3rds that of the Contemporary.