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[Lensman]

Then why did they extend 60 day fastpass to the outside motels?

There's a thread for that:
60 Day Fastpass Window for Offsite Hotels

But @larryz had the short answer!

 

[trainplane3]

Some updates on the turn section:

 

[joelkfla]

Couldn’t it also make it easier for guests to get on their property?

Case in point: When high speed rail was proposed between Tampa & Orlando Airport (before Gov. Scott killed it), Disney offered to have a stop on their property, but only if there was no stop at the I-Drive/Convention Center area.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Case in point: When high speed rail was proposed between Tampa & Orlando Airport (before Gov. Scott killed it), Disney offered to have a stop on their property, but only if there was no stop at the I-Drive/Convention Center area.

That was Disney’s typical, prior demand for transit projects. Disney agreed to a station along with other attraction area stations for the project to which you are referring.

 

[Calmdownnow]

I haven't read the whole thread, but would be interested if any one had any information about how the U.S. steel tariffs may be impacting on the costs of the gondola project, given the amount of steel that is going into this infrastructure project. Are major cost over-runs likely on the gondola infrastructure, given that the project was conceived before tariffs were introduced?

 

[Lensman]

I haven't read the whole thread, but would be interested if any one had any information about how the U.S. steel tariffs may be impacting on the costs of the gondola project, given the amount of steel that is going into this infrastructure project. Are major cost over-runs likely on the gondola infrastructure, given that the project was conceived before tariffs were introduced?

I think that's a bad idea that would risk getting politics involved and locking a critical thread. Are you trying to start a war? Do you want the moderators to go crazy?

That said, I think Disney has the benefit of:
1. Contracts for finished goods were probably all locked down at an early stage of the project last year or early this year at the latest.
2. The project itself is so massively overpriced that an increase in materials cost wouldn't be a material impact to budget vs actuals.

 

[JoeCamel]

I haven't read the whole thread, but would be interested if any one had any information about how the U.S. steel tariffs may be impacting on the costs of the gondola project, given the amount of steel that is going into this infrastructure project. Are major cost over-runs likely on the gondola infrastructure, given that the project was conceived before tariffs were introduced?

Not at all. This project was bought and paid for long before the tariffs went into effect.

 

[begood524]

Some updates on the turn section:

I wonder why on one side of the turn station the subsequent tower is so close to the actual station and on the other side it's spaced out

 

[donsullivan]

Couldn’t it also make it easier for guests to get on their property?

Anything like that would involve construction outside of the RCID property which would get more complicated than can even be imagined. Their whole goal with this is to reduce the number of vehicles (including buses) on the roads within the Walt Disney World property. The gondola system is a great (relatively) inexpensive way to pull that off.

 

[nace888]

If this was mentioned, I apologize. HOWEVER, let's talk technology and technicalities. Should the cabins need to be stored (whether nightly or only in the event of major concern) are we speculating the process to be automatic, or manual? @Lift Blog do you have any information on how this process works? I have seen videos of both manual and automatic, but what do you think we're to expect?

 

[RSoxNo1]

Will any of the Gondolas have Zootopia characters on them? Asking for a friend.

 

[nace888]

Will any of the Gondolas have Zootopia characters on them? Asking for a friend.

As long as I could ride one with Nick Wilde in a Nick Wilde cabin, I'd be pleased with that, LOL!

 

[nickys]

When i visited Medellin Colombia these gondolas were used for day to day things and for people to get to work. Seems like a cool and scenic way to travel, very cheap there as well like $2.50 a ride

So $5 a day to get to work, in a country like Columbia, hardly known for it’s general wealth amongst ordinary working people. Not what I’d call cheap.

Hasn’t worked so well in London. Relatively few people use the Emirates line to get across the river, probably because it takes so long. The only thing keeping it going is the tourists. This summer there was a rumour in the press that it would be closing soon, just not economical to keep it going.

 

[joelkfla]

So $5 a day to get to work, in a country like Columbia, hardly known for it’s general wealth amongst ordinary working people. Not what I’d call cheap.

Hasn’t worked so well in London. Relatively few people use the Emirates line to get across the river, probably because it takes so long. The only thing keeping it going is the tourists. This summer there was a rumour in the press that it would be closing soon, just not economical to keep it going.

I read that the problem with Emirates was that is was not integrated into the transport system:

• No easy connections at the terminals
• No fare integration
• Other more convenient transport modes available to cross the Thames

As to speed, I believe I read that they run it faster during commute times to make the crossing time more competitive.

 

[nickys]

I read that the problem with Emirates was that is was not integrated into the transport system:

• No easy connections at the terminals
• No fare integration
• Other more convenient transport modes available to cross the Thames

As to speed, I believe I read that they run it faster during commute times to make the crossing time more competitive.

Certainly no fare integration. You can get books of tickets at a discount, but still pricey, and not included under Transport for London Oyster cards etc. That is the major factor IMO. Docklands Light Railway is way faster, even with the faster speed during commuter times.

The connections are OK, both on the DLR I think. Certainly one terminal is, the other one is pretty close to London City Airport so I would think there’s a station nearby. I like the DLR, if I fly down I always use London City. It’s fast and efficient, but there are several branches to it, so it’s not easy for tourists and visitors to find their way about. So even tourist numbers for the Emirates line are low.

 

[Calmdownnow]

I think that's a bad idea that would risk getting politics involved and locking a critical thread. Are you trying to start a war? Do you want the moderators to go crazy?

That said, I think Disney has the benefit of:
1. Contracts for finished goods were probably all locked down at an early stage of the project last year or early this year at the latest.
2. The project itself is so massively overpriced that an increase in materials cost wouldn't be a material impact to budget vs actuals.

Not trying to start a war. Just interested in how these big projects play out financially particularly as Disney is going full-tilt with alot of building work at the moment that was announced before prices started to rise. If i read you right, you are suggesting the financial hit (if there is one) would be on the contractors.

 

[nace888]

I may have missed this, but what's the earliest we're looking for Skyliner to open up? I'm hearing around March? I saw May-July somewhere...

 

[danlb_2000]

I may have missed this, but what's the earliest we're looking for Skyliner to open up? I'm hearing around March? I saw May-July somewhere...

Sometime in Spring of 2019 is what is estimated at this point.

 

[marni1971]

For guests? Think mid summer. Earlier would be a bonus.

 

[Rodan75]

For guests? Think mid summer. Earlier would be a bonus.

Is that a delay? I thought they were previously on track for Spring.