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GCTales
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ANSI Is one of the standards boards (like NFPA and ASME) that write the standards / requirements for equipment.
Typically those boards consist of experts in the field - engineering, design, scientists, and some industry experts (application and use, frequently limited to only one or two persons). Often, you have to be known to board members and apply to be on the board. Board members review qualifications and vote to add you to the board or not. Since most of these are niche specialties, board members frequently already know each other. Because they set the standards that are used by people such as ride inspectors and fire marshalls to verify proper installation, operation, etc they are often conservative in who they add. They limit the number of voting industry "representatives" (who really has to be a person who is a technical expert and competent in the field) so that they don't "weaken" or skew the standard toward a specific manufacturer. An "Observer" member is typically a non-voting member of the board. They are an observer only. In many cases, they can present to the board and provide input, they are often entitled to attend the closed door committee meetings, gets advanced copies of the next revision of a standard (drafts), etc.
In the industry in which I was involved, the controlling standards were ASME VIII, ASME PVHO-1, and NFPA 99. All the boards shared many of same people - spread across medical, military, research, higher education (PhD in the University environment),engineers, physicists, clinical specialists (such as patient monitoring), programming, fire safety, testing, etc.
For Disney to get someone on the board (even in an observer role) tells me they are very serious about this system. They have someone on staff who they are dedicating to participate in the standard development process and keep a close eye on the standard.
Sometimes the "Observer" member is rotated among industry representatives. Say there are 3 companies involved and only 2 voting seats, each voting seat has a 2 year term and they rotate among the industry reps - A and B on with C observing, then B and C on with A holding the observer seat.
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begood524
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Is the test gondola no longer in the station at Hollywood?
nace888
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In reference to the pictures, I think the gondola was on the other side.
Missing20K
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Completely off topic but I just gotta chime in. They (US ski resorts) also seem to be in a chicken and egg problem in that they are raising prices while volume is declining. The new passes that have arisen in the last few years that are combining resorts all over the world are an interesting development.
Back on topic, if they have placed someone on the board, I'd bet money this is not the last "Passenger Ropeway" Disney will be constructing, whether in WDW or elsewhere.
Lensman
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Apologies for continuing the off-topic, but raising prices in the face of flat or declining demand isn't unprecedented and isn't necessarily poor strategy, depending on your demand curve. Look at movie theaters. In the U.S., they've faced flat to declining demand over the past 20 years but have double overall revenue by increasing both primary (ticket) and secondary (concession) pricing. Note that at least part of this is by increasing pricing through premium showings (big IMAX screens, better sound, loveseats, etc) and just better seating in general. I'm not judging or endorsing this strategy, I'm just observing.
Obtopic: I'm also very excited by the fact that Disney is on the ANSI board. Who are (or have been) the other non-industry (customer-related) observers on the board?
trainplane3
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Something something a/c install joke here something.
Grimley1968
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My theory is that, because there is still some work to do to get the gondola path inside the station ready, they had to remove the gondola to allow clearance for workers. Since the rope hasn't been pulled yet, there was no good place to slide the gondola to (while attached to the grip), and it was easier just to detach it from the grip, which allows plenty of clearance for most work.
Wow, if they come off that easily, imagine the carnage as hundreds of Guests fall into the alligator-infested flaming swamps as cabins separate from their grips!
Not if Disney has any say. They will fight anything that makes it easier for Guests to move off property.
Couldn’t it also make it easier for guests to get on their property?
They would then have to install the one-way gondola systems.
When i visited Medellin Colombia these gondolas were used for day to day things and for people to get to work. Seems like a cool and scenic way to travel, very cheap there as well like $2.50 a ride
Lensman
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You mean like the one-way moving walkways they had in Las Vegas to move people from the sidewalk to the casino?
On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair...
DisAl
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Then why did they extend 60 day fastpass to the outside motels?
Nothing's free. Those hotels are paying for that privilege...
Goofyernmost
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And, I would guess, that the majority of the park guests still come in from offsite. It always seems like the hotels are (just guessing here) around 80% and I see an awful lot of Mickey ears in the lobby's. Also the more the incentive to get the people to go to Disney instead of Universal is a real possibility as well. Get them to plan before they get there and commit to Disney two months out. Less chance of finding time to visit other places and leave their money in those places.