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[ParksAndPixels]

Do we know if the gondolas will have air conditioning? Just wondering because Florida is really hot at times... (sorry, I had to do it!)

 

[mousekedoc]

Are we talking about whether the gondolas are conditioned for air travel, or air conditioning for the passengers? Still confused on that part.

 

[Kamikaze]

I think the cost is going to be in the stations as opposed to the actual system. They are buying the system from a 3rd party.

Fair, but other systems need the storage and stations as well.

Here's what the base at Skyeship looks like:
https://goo.gl/images/VESKEv

Not all that different from what we've seen for WDW (styling obviously differs). Skyeship is a little over 2 miles long and has three stations. For $15m.

 

[MrPromey]

Think of 8 to 10 tablets or cell phones all turned on at once. Plenty of light.

touché

 

[dvitali]

To get off the A/C question, how about we now discuss over several hundred pages if each car going to have speakers system. Telling us to keep our arms and legs in the car and watch our small children getting on and off the vehicle.

 

[King Panda 77]

To get off the A/C question, how about we now discuss over several hundred pages if each car going to have speakers system. Telling us to keep our arms and legs in the car and watch our small children getting on and off the vehicle.

But how will we hear that speil over the roar of the ac ?

 

[Casper Gutman]

AC is really unnecessary on the gondolas. As per Disney’s current maintenance practices, the door will be flapping wide open for most of the journey, ensuring a pleasant breeze as well as a bit of excitement.

 

[GoofGoof]

Fair, but other systems need the storage and stations as well.

Here's what the base at Skyeship looks like:
https://goo.gl/images/VESKEv

Not all that different from what we've seen for WDW (styling obviously differs). Skyeship is a little over 2 miles long and has three stations. For $15m.

My gut feeling is that the “costs” we hear quoted for all Disney projects are likely highly inflated. Probably a combo of Disney internally inflating the costs through charges between various internal departments and the numbers that get leaked out are inflated by the leakers.

What we know so far is that Disney bought off the shelf gondolas. If there’s no level of customization than it’s not possible that the system costs 10x what other systems cost. The only portion of the project that’s somewhat custom is the stations. I have my doubts they cost that much more than most ski resorts but that’s the only portion that has a level of variability with costs.

 

[raymusiccity]

San Diego Zoo has one.

Bronx Zoo gave up on theirs. Too expensive to maintain.....not to mention, stranding riders for 5 hrs one day!

 

[Jambo Joe]

Why wouldn't stopping almost dead center of Epcot be better or any worse then going to the main entrance? Seems handier where it is going to stop now.

Agreed - I love the international gate. Convenient to WS, as well as the Flower and Garden and Food and Wine stations in the middle of the park.

 

[Lift Blog]

My gut feeling is that the “costs” we hear quoted for all Disney projects are likely highly inflated. Probably a combo of Disney internally inflating the costs through charges between various internal departments and the numbers that get leaked out are inflated by the leakers.

What we know so far is that Disney bought off the shelf gondolas. If there’s no level of customization than it’s not possible that the system costs 10x what other systems cost. The only portion of the project that’s somewhat custom is the stations. I have my doubts they cost that much more than most ski resorts but that’s the only portion that has a level of variability with costs.

There is no such thing as an off the shelf gondola.

 

[rocketraccoon]

The Hollywood Studios station as of today.

And the one out by World Showcase.

 

[JoeCamel]

How. Many. Posts. Need. To. Be. About. Air. Conditioning???

All. Of. Them.

 

[Jambo Joe]

There is no such thing as an off the shelf gondola.

I found the April 7 analysis on Liftblog.com to be very informative in providing perspective on the scale of the Disney installation. Great read - and the post makes great use of photos from bioreconstruct.

 

[Goofyernmost]

And the one out by World Showcase.

Now that one really does look green.

 

[GoofGoof]

There is no such thing as an off the shelf gondola.

What I meant by “off the shelf” is that Disney is not designing this system in house. They are buying an esblished product from a 3rd party that specializes in building similar systems. At least that’s what I thought the plan was. I may have missed something in 400+ pages so if that’s not the plan anymore than it may explain why the rumored cost is 10X similar projects.

 

[Goofyernmost]

What I meant by “off the shelf” is that Disney is not designing this system in house. They are buying an esblished product from a 3rd party that specializes in building similar systems. At least that’s what I thought the plan was. I may have missed something in 400+ pages so if that’s not the plan anymore than it may explain why the rumored cost is 10X similar projects.

Are there similar projects? I mean really almost the same thing other then Gondola's, cables and towers? That layout seems kinda unique to me. And there is also the factor that we don't really know for sure what it is costing Disney. They aren't usually real open about that information. Has it ever been mentioned about the total miles covered compared to straight line Gondola up and down the side of a mountain. Or quantity of Gondola units comparatively. I don't know any of this, does anyone have that information?

 

[Sull1102]

So this installation is using Doppelmayr's newest tech, the D-Line system and I believe it is the first installation of such in North America. A ski area will spend in the neighborhood of say $6-9 million in a detachable chairlift and a gondola can run $8-15+ million. This system is huge compared to a ski areas. It's almost equivalent to three or four gondolas for skiing. Also, after riding the lifts in the Alps last month I'm far from worried about Florida wind being a problem.

 

[GoofGoof]

Are there similar projects? I mean really almost the same thing other then Gondola's, cables and towers? That layout seems kinda unique to me. And there is also the factor that we don't really know for sure what it is costing Disney. They aren't usually real open about that information. Has it ever been mentioned about the total miles covered compared to straight line Gondola up and down the side of a mountain. Or quantity of Gondola units comparatively. I don't know any of this, does anyone have that information?

To be clear, I was questioning the other person stating there was a rumor that this project is costing Disney hundreds of millions of dollars. I’m not he one saying that is the cost. We’ll never know the full cost to Disney. The only publicly available information is the small component being paid for by RCID.

 

[marni1971]

To be clear, I was questioning the other person stating there was a rumor that this project is costing Disney hundreds of millions of dollars. .

It’s more than rumour amazingly.