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[Goofyernmost]

It was explored mathematically with estimates. There is no exact methodology used here to determine the accurate number.
But Disney can very easily provide that number...unless they too are estimating.

I think the point was made quite clearly that they are estimating. They might have a light beam counter, but no one has mentioned one so unless they have paid help counting on their fingers they too were estimating. And again, so what? Why does it matter all that much to you? What do you have invested in this? Solid numbers or sloppy numbers have no impact on the Gondola at all. They have no reason really to make a wild guess with inbuilt bias when it really doesn't matter at all to anything. Why are you trying so hard to make this whole thing a failure, when it clearly is not? If you are afraid to ride them just don't ride them. Your problem is then solved.

 

[peter11435]

I think the point was made quite clearly that they are estimating. They might have a light beam counter, but no one has mentioned one so unless they have paid help counting on their fingers they too were estimating. And again, so what? Why does it matter all that much to you? What do you have invested in this? Solid numbers or sloppy numbers have no impact on the Gondola at all. They have no reason really to make a wild guess with inbuilt bias when it really doesn't matter at all to anything. Why are you trying so hard to make this whole thing a failure, when it clearly is not? If you are afraid to ride them just don't ride them. Your problem is then solved.

There is little doubt that Disney has a system in place to count the guests utilizing the skyliner. Just as they do for every ride and attraction. They don’t need anyone counting on their fingers.

 

[Coaster Lover]

I would assume that they count each rider twice if going from Pop/AoA to Epcot/Studios (as it is really two gondola rides) or any other trip that requires a transfer at the CB station... so I'm sure that adds to the numbers too...

 

[lazyboy97o]

1 million is easy to reach in this time frame. It’s ridiculous to question the number in this instance.

Pretty sure this is the person who thinks Epic Universe isn’t being built because he didn’t see someone digging a hole by hand.

 

[larryz]

Certainly not calling it 'unprecedented' - such PR is done all the time for various things... but always for a purpose. To celebrate something or reason to elevate something into the public view.

Think about it.. if the skyliner didn't shutdown, this 'milestone' would have been hit in less than a month of opening. Not much of a big deal if it were just normal operation. The thing is so new Disney could still just be pressing about it being open...

And think about THIS: if WDW charged everybody $1 per ride, they'd have collected over a million dollars in that same time.

 

[roj2323]

Thats a cool story bro... but I won't believe it until Disney shows the exact numbers and calculations

Respectfully please don’t call me, or anyone else for that matter “bro”. Doing so is antagonistic and not the direction I think you were trying to go.

That said I would love to see numbers and calculations as well but I don’t know that we will ever see that sort of thing.

 

[flynnibus]

Respectfully please don’t call me, or anyone else for that matter “bro”. Doing so is antagonistic and not the direction I think you were trying to go.

That said I would love to see numbers and calculations as well but I don’t know that we will ever see that sort of thing.

Lookup “cool story bro” meme . And cjeck out of of the posts from the last page or so about calculations

 

[BrianLo]

Pretty sure this is the person who thinks Epic Universe isn’t being built because he didn’t see someone digging a hole by hand.

BUT... there are no spades in the ground!

 

[The Mom]

I think posters should probably stop making jokes - they don't seem to be very good at it.

 

[Phil12]

Keep in mind that this is eliminating at least 6 buses round tripping to and from the parks for 10-14 hours a day. This is probably 2-300 gallons of diesel fuel per day making it pretty easy to see why this system was a smart move. That's $328K per year just in fuel making this a smart choice long term.

Yes but do you have an estimate of how much coal was burned to provide the electric power to run the Skyliner? Disney gets its electric power from a combination of sources including coal, natural gas, solar and nuclear. Being such a huge corporate customer, Disney always tries to buy their power from the cheapest source. And that source is coal.

 

[Andrew C]

I think posters should probably stop making jokes - they don't seem to be very good at it.

story of my life.

 

[HansGruber]

I’ve stayed off this thread because people like myself, who are critical of the Skyliner system, have been routinely shunned by others on this forum. Perhaps such an egregious mishap should be an example for others to be more open-minded about those of us who don’t see everything with rose-colored goggles. According to some, gondolas are such a "well-seasoned" mode of transportation that it isn’t possible for people to be stranded for more than a few minutes. Either the framework isn’t that robust or Disney, a multi-billion dollar conglomerate, let us down. Either way, I'd recommend some on here be more receptive to the skeptics among us who aren't that on-board with a mode of transportation that isn't heavily used in the USA.

 

[Clamman73]

Coming back from Epcot after Epcot 4Eva, I was impressed by how fast the line moves as compared to a long monorail line...the continuous loading of this type of transportation would win out in a competition with the monorail...no doubt.

 

[roj2323]

Yes but do you have an estimate of how much coal was burned to provide the electric power to run the Skyliner? Disney gets its electric power from a combination of sources including coal, natural gas, solar and nuclear. Being such a huge corporate customer, Disney always tries to buy their power from the cheapest source. And that source is coal.

They seem to have that covered. They have over 10MW of Solar panels on property now from what I recall. And before you go "oh but it's dark at night" Thats what batteries are for.



The 270 acres ofpanels is supposedly enough to power two of the theme parks. https://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201902/6619/

 

[BromBones]

Believe what you want. Disney couldn't care less if you don't believe them.

Don't mind if I do. And I really don't care if Disney cares or not. I know they don't.
But for some reason the people on this site care immensely if you dare criticize or question Disney.

 

[BromBones]

I think the point was made quite clearly that they are estimating. They might have a light beam counter, but no one has mentioned one so unless they have paid help counting on their fingers they too were estimating. And again, so what? Why does it matter all that much to you? What do you have invested in this? Solid numbers or sloppy numbers have no impact on the Gondola at all. They have no reason really to make a wild guess with inbuilt bias when it really doesn't matter at all to anything. Why are you trying so hard to make this whole thing a failure, when it clearly is not? If you are afraid to ride them just don't ride them. Your problem is then solved.

Seriously, Why do you guys all get so upset when I dare question or criticize Disney?
You people act as if you built the parks.

 

[BromBones]

They seem to have that covered. They have over 10MW of Solar panels on property now from what I recall. And before you go "oh but it's dark at night" Thats what batteries are for.



The 270 acres ofpanels is supposedly enough to power two of the theme parks. https://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201902/6619/

Batteries for Solar Power systems only hold a limited charge of maybe 6 to 8 hours.
The Solar panels Disney has does not power as much as you think.
They only built those acres of panels to keep the environmentalists off of their backs.
They have a MASSIVE carbon footprint.

 

[HansGruber]

Of course, I could bring up the point that 3 hours confined in a tight space in the stagnant Orlando August heat can't be healthy for some. But, I'll just be told that Gondolas are very reliable and any rescue attempt would take a few minutes.

 

[Rich Brownn]

Of course, I could bring up the point that 3 hours confined in a tight space in the stagnant Orlando August heat can't be healthy for some. But, I'll just be told that Gondolas are very reliable and any rescue attempt would take a few minutes.

Ya know, in 1975 we had a power-wide outage over the whole resort. People were stuck in non-AC, barely opened windows on a monorail for almost 3 hours. And everyone survived. And no one even remembers anymore... (600V off happened quite a few times too, but that was the longest - and the only one that covered literally ever part of WDW at the time).

 

[Goofyernmost]

There is little doubt that Disney has a system in place to count the guests utilizing the skyliner. Just as they do for every ride and attraction. They don’t need anyone counting on their fingers.

I don't agree or disagree. The only alleged confirmation we have that a counting system exists is you saying "There is little doubt that Disney has a system in place to count the guests utilizing the skyliner" You may be right or wrong, but my point was "What the hell difference does it make"? It is one of the biggest fluff pieces of information that Disney can issue. It changes nothing, even if true, which it probably is, it is nothing more then yet another marketing move to impress and calm the nerves of overly reactionary people. It doesn't even deserve this paragraph of discussion much less extended discussion about how the number was determined. If people had half the interest in how votes get counted as this, the country would be a much better place.