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BromBones

Well-Known Member
based on?

Based on the fact that Disney has inflated numbers in the past.
Based on the fact that only a week into it's opening it had an accident and had to be shut down with only limited usage.
Based on the fact that the cars are not being totally full every day.
Based on the fact that Disney needs good P.R. to make up for the incident that occurred only one week into the operation of the Skyliner.
What better P.R. than to over inflate the numbers to allay people's fears.
 

BromBones

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I personally see no motive for Disney to lie about something like that... they really don’t even have a need to say anything

Well, If you look at it. New ride, highly publicized accident one week into operation. Inflated numbers can allay people's fears and help with the P.R. for the new system.

It's not the first time a business has over inflated their numbers to appease customers and satisfy shareholders.
 

Goofyernmost

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Those numbers are strictly for amusement only. They were not built to keep track of the total riders over time, just how many could get to two parks with minimum time and costs. If those numbers are indeed based on 14 hours of operation, then the times when it should have been really heavy must have knocked the socks off it. There's about 3 hours max, I'd guess, in the morning when they would be running at maximum demand and about two hours at night after the parks close. Other then that it should be spotty at best and as soon as the novelty wears off, it will fall back to it's expected usage. They don't have people watching buses to see how often a bus will arrive with no one on or just a few. That will be the same level of concern that the Gondola's will muster after a short time, I suspect.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Eh, it seems like a lot to most people though. Universal announced 1 million riders on Hogwarts Express back when that opened. It's not unprecedented.

Certainly not calling it 'unprecedented' - such PR is done all the time for various things... but always for a purpose. To celebrate something or reason to elevate something into the public view.

Think about it.. if the skyliner didn't shutdown, this 'milestone' would have been hit in less than a month of opening. Not much of a big deal if it were just normal operation. The thing is so new Disney could still just be pressing about it being open...
 

Goofyernmost

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Well, If you look at it. New ride, highly publicized accident one week into operation. Inflated numbers can allay people's fears and help with the P.R. for the new system.

It's not the first time a business has over inflated their numbers to appease customers and satisfy shareholders.
So what, even if that were true, the alleged panic that seems to be alive and well is unjustified and just plain petty, biased viewpoints. They do not measure the real degree of danger that all of you folks are trying to make people believe. If something that simple that although interesting, is totally unimportant to anyone and it's just a fluff piece and shouldn't really stir any amount of concern, but perhaps eases the public's minds to bring in focus how ridiculous the whole discussion/concern has been.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Based on the fact that only a week into it's opening it had an accident and had to be shut down with only limited usage.
Based on the fact that the cars are not being totally full every day.

this has been explored in the thread previously with math. Even with the accident and cars that are not full, they really should have hit the 1 million number sooner.
 

Kamikaze

Well-Known Member
But that’s when counting overall attendance over the course of a season.
So that 1 million number is a bit misleading.
I still find that number hard to believe.
It’s not beneath Disney to inflate their numbers for the sake of PR.

Its operated for ~25 days now.
1,000,000 / 25 = 40,000 daily riders (and they most likely used riders from during testing and Cast previews as well)
If one person takes a trip from POP/AoA to DHS or to Epcot and back, that is 4 total rides. Can you see how quickly that adds up?

This is how ridership/attendance is done. Do you think they exclude people that ride multiple times in an hour for an attraction from HRC? when TEA releases their attendance numbers, they are counting people that park hop//reenter as multiple guests.
 
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BromBones

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That monorail isn't full all day either, I guess it's super unpopular. It's a form of transportation that ebbs and flows.

Who said it was “super unpopular”? But I do doubt the very quick 1 million riders number.
Oh I know...I dared question Disney because they never exaggerate numbers to appease their shareholders. Companies never do that.
 
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BromBones

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So what, even if that were true, the alleged panic that seems to be alive and well is unjustified and just plain petty, biased viewpoints. They do not measure the real degree of danger that all of you folks are trying to make people believe. If something that simple that although interesting, is totally unimportant to anyone and it's just a fluff piece and shouldn't really stir any amount of concern, but perhaps eases the public's minds to bring in focus how ridiculous the whole discussion/concern has been.

Who’s trying to perpetuate “panic”? I’m simply questioning the validity of that number.
 

BromBones

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this has been explored in the thread previously with math. Even with the accident and cars that are not full, they really should have hit the 1 million number sooner.

It was explored mathematically with estimates. There is no exact methodology used here to determine the accurate number.
But Disney can very easily provide that number...unless they too are estimating.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
It was explored mathematically with estimates. There is no exact methodology used here to determine the accurate number.
But Disney can very easily provide that number...unless they too are estimating.

yep. With these reasonable estimates, it was determined how easy it was to reach one millions riders in this trameframe. So easy that some were surprised that it took this long.
 

BromBones

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yep. With these reasonable estimates, it was determined how easy it was to reach one millions riders in this trameframe. So easy that some were surprised that it took this long.
Inaccurate estimates. If Disney shows the exact numbers and calculations then I will believe it. Until then I question it.
 

roj2323

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Its operated for ~25 days now.
1,000,000 / 25 = 40,000 daily riders (and they most likely used riders from during testing and Cast previews as well)
If one person takes a trip from POP/AoA to DHS or to Epcot and back, that is 4 total rides. Can you see how quickly that adds up?

This is how ridership/attendance is done. Do you think they exclude people that ride multiple times in an hour for an attraction from HRC? when TEA releases their attendance numbers, they are counting people that park hop//reenter as multiple guests.


Keep in mind that this is eliminating at least 6 buses round tripping to and from the parks for 10-14 hours a day. This is probably 2-300 gallons of diesel fuel per day making it pretty easy to see why this system was a smart move. That's $328K per year just in fuel making this a smart choice long term.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Keep in mind that this is eliminating at least 6 buses round tripping to and from the parks for 10-14 hours a day. This is probably 2-300 gallons of diesel fuel per day making it pretty easy to see why this system was a smart move. That's $328K per year just in fuel making this a smart choice long term.

Thats a cool story bro... but I won't believe it until Disney shows the exact numbers and calculations :angelic:

;)
 

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