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New Disneyland Parking Garage and Transportation Hub

Discussion in 'Disneyland Resort' started by RMichael21, Aug 10, 2016.

  1. disneylandcm

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    Thank you, sir! I have a degree and have been successful in the workplace for many years. However my former career is not an option any longer so I had to start over. I’ve been at the Disneyland Resort now for several years and I love it. I love Disney, I love my job, and I love creating happiness! But it is a challenging place to work. In my opinion it does not equate to employment at a fast food restaurant. Disney has very high expectations of CMs. (Higher than anywhere else I’ve been employed.) So do Guests! I am happy to meet those expectations and prefer to work at that level. I went in knowing this and agreeing to the pay offered and the late hours. Still, I wish that I earned something closer to what I need to pay my bills. I need the cast shuttle given how far away from my work location I am required to park. I accept that when Guests need the spaces I will be parking twice as far that distance. I am grateful for the paid walk time and consider it a privilege. At the same time in all my working years I have never parked so far from my location. I don’t think I am spoiled in receiving partial compensation for the time it takes to get to and from my car to where I work, which takes far more than twenty minutes. (How much time I spend commuting to the lot is entirely separate and on me.) All I ask of the online community is respect for the experience of Cast Members and reserve judgement if you haven’t been one yourself.
     
  2. Curious Constance

    Curious Constance Well-Known Member

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    Obviously Disney will need to pay their workers a wage that equates to the type of person they want representing their business. If they don't get it with what they pay, they will raise their wages until they do.

    Government assistance is needed not because Disney doesn't pay a livable wage, but because people think they should be able to have it all and if they can't, someone else should pay for them to do so.

    You can't make a career out of an entry level job and live in one of the most expensive cities in the country. You can't. You must either gain more skill and obtain a better job, or move somewhere you'll be able to make it on the entry job you prefer to work.

    Simply giving them more money will only over inflate the cost of living, and what incentive is there for someone to better themselves and move up, if you're going to just give them more money doing jobs that require no special skill?
     
  3. TROR

    TROR Well-Known Member

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    I actually do believe that CM's deserve to be paid more but the "living wage" argument is irrelevant. The problem is CM's aren't being paid what's fair to the work they put out. However, someone working at McDonald's is getting paid more than what's fair to the work they put out. It's all relative to the job.
     
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  4. Hatbox Ghostbuster

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    ...walks away slowly...
     
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  5. Curious Constance

    Curious Constance Well-Known Member

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    Something has switched inside me lately. I used to just sit back and keep my mouth shut when I didn't agree with things, but no more. I've already called my son's teacher out twice so far for her BS. I'm sure plenty more will be forthcoming! Of course I'm not rude, and I do it in a respectful way, so that goes a long way, but no more sitting by and privately stewing for me!
     
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  6. Hatbox Ghostbuster

    Hatbox Ghostbuster Well-Known Member

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    Hey, I'm in full support of voicing your opinion and not letting it stew.
    I tried reading and digesting the past couples pages of this thread though and just thought...hey, let's add some levity!
     
  7. Dr. Hans Reinhardt

    Dr. Hans Reinhardt Well-Known Member

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    I try not to take any of it too seriously, so for me the levity is much appreciated.

    Obviously I enjoy vigorous debate, but only as long as the conversation is respectful and consideration is shown for everyone's opinion. I am frank and not shy about expressing my opinion, but in doing so I make an effort to go with the flow, add substantively to the discussion, and acknowledge when I'm wrong. I consider the majority of posters in the Disneyland section of WDWMagic as my virtual friends, and like "real life" friends we aren't always going to agree, and that's OK.
     
  8. DisneyIrishGuy

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    I have respect for the CMs, and I empathize with the situation. While I have never worked for Disney, I have worked for a local amusement park in the Bay Area. I know how it is to have to deal with long commutes, public transit, and having to be at my work assignment by an assigned time. Going through security, having to go to costuming before being "on-stage", checking in with your lead or supervisor, etc. All this before I even clocked in. I just had to budget my time and know when I needed to leave my house in order to do all this. I wish I got the perk of "walking time", that would have been heaven.

    Point people have been trying to make is that Disney CMs aren't in a unique position. Its something that lots of people deal with and not just in the theme park business.
     
  9. Ismael Flores

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    I don’t disagree with that, if the parking is at a distance sure shuttles should be provided because the workers are using a company parking lot.
    But like others and I have said additional time compensations for the extracommuting time shouldn’t have to be an obligation.
    If I am do to be in my station and working at 4 and I know that it takes me an hour to get to the point of checking then it’s my responsibility to add that extra hour Into my commute time with out demanding that I be compensated. It would be nice if that was the case for everyone in the work force but it’s not
     
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  10. Ismael Flores

    Ismael Flores Well-Known Member

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    Exactly,
    Maybe that is why I hate unions. Because they seem to be taking that approach and I don’t think it’s because they care for their members. I think it’s more about the idea of keeping the unions strong so they can continue to collect member dues from their members.
     
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  11. Ismael Flores

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    I wasn’t insinuating that perks shouldn’t Be offered as in this case with the shuttles service. I was stating that demanding to be paid for their commuting time to their post is not a companies obligation.
    I believe this started when someone got upset to the suggestion that the bus stops and cast shuttles could be moved to Manchester to help with traffic flow in harbor. Seems like person got upset for the suggestion because it added time for his/her walking commute without additional compensated.
     
  12. Dr. Hans Reinhardt

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    I don't think anyone said that it was, well at least not me, hence why I used the word "perk".
     
  13. phruby

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    Iger withdrawals.
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  14. Old Mouseketeer

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    I think that's horrible. It's been explained in detail that labor is such a small percentage in the fast food industry that paying $14 or $15 per hour would have a negligible impact on corporate profits. "Relative to the job" is irrelevant. It's people working full time and unable to live.
     
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  15. Old Mouseketeer

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    I really don't think you understand the reality of vast numbers of Disney CMs today. It is widely proven that raising the minimum wage results in more unemployment or rampant inflation is not true. And I sure as hell don't think you know many Disneyland employees.

    Everyone--listen up. We're talking about people here. People who wait on you and are expected to make magic for you and entertain you. And you don't care if they're making a living wage. You don't care if their compensation and benefits have drastically declined over the past 40 years. Disney keeps squeezing and squeezing and you offer the equivalent of "let them eat cake."

    Have a magical day.
     
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  16. Darkbeer1

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    https://www.seattletimes.com/business/uw-study-finds-seattles-minimum-wage-is-costing-jobs/

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    The UW team published its first report last July on the impact of the first jump in Seattle’s minimum wage, which went in April 2015 from $9.47 to $10 or $11 an hour, depending on business size, benefits and tips.

    This latest study from the UW team looks at the effects of both the first and second jumps. The second jump, in January 2016, raised the minimum wage to $10.50 to $13. (The minimum wage has since gone up again, to the current $11 to $15. It goes up again in January to $11.50 to $15.)

    The team concluded that the second jump had a far greater impact, boosting pay in low-wage jobs by about 3 percent since 2014 but also resulting in a 9 percent reduction in hours worked in such jobs. That resulted in a 6 percent drop in what employers collectively pay — and what workers earn — for those low-wage jobs.

    For an average low-wage worker in Seattle, that translates into a loss of about $125 per month per job.

    “If you’re a low-skilled worker with one of those jobs, $125 a month is a sizable amount of money,” said Mark Long, a UW public-policy professor and one of the authors of the report. “It can be the difference between being able to pay your rent and not being able to pay your rent.”

    The report also estimated that there are about 5,000 fewer low-wage jobs in the city than there would have been without the law.<<

    Actual study, real numbers, real tracking in a study ordered by the city government.
     
  17. The Mom

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    People, just a reminder that personal attacks are never allowed, and there is a politics forum to discuss living wage, government assistance, etc etc.
     
  18. DisneyIrishGuy

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    Well now back to the reason for the thread, the Eastern Gateway.

    @Darkbeer1 any indication when Disney will be submitting an updated proposal? I would have to think its got to be before the end of the year or timelines are shot. We're already half way through October, and no agenda updates as of yet.
     
  19. Darkbeer1

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    Nothing to report, and after the workshop is held, you have to get it on the planned calendar. If the plans was released om Monday, you could have the Workshop just before Thanksgiving, and then filed, you could get a hearing date, after the required review period in early 2018. So you already have 3 months at minimum before it could go to the City Council.

    http://anaheim.net/DocumentCenter/Home/View/2004
     
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  20. DisneyIrishGuy

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    I suppose if they got an exception (for noise, road closures, and such) to allow 24 hour construction for the entire project it could be finished in time for SWL:GE opening. However it's likely to get opened after opening in sometime late 2019 or early 2020.
     

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