TrainsOfDisney
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Midway has a dedicated space for loading wheelchairs - those cars are out of the line when at the station - it shouldn’t slow the ride down at all.
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New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024
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Yes, I understand that in theory (and I could be confusing causation with correlation there—but I think it might be an issue when a backlog prevents the cars from returning to their dedicated loading area until the next party is ready to depart it?). On the other hand, I know this is definitely true for some of the attractions—for example IASW at DL, where loading slows down when ECV users exit back towards the entrance.
TrainsOfDisney
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Yes! At small world they can at least send boats to one side and continue to dispatch them, but where it’s a big problem is Pirates, Mermaid and Haunted Mansion.
I think some of the work at the mansion this summer will help but my understanding is when the wheelchair line was long they would simply stop the attraction, load 4 buggies and then when those 4 came back they would stop, unload and load.
And just to be extremely clear, I am not in any way suggesting Disney should cut back on accommodations for physically disabled and those who need ECVs or wheelchairs (if anything I believe the opposite)—simply that there may be unintended consequences of pushing more marginal users into needing them more of the time.
Totally different title under the ADA than what Disney is subject to.
TrainsOfDisney
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I never said anything different - that’s why I’m interested in discussing and learning the differences.
And of course Disney is subject to the same laws for transportation like the bus, skyliner, monorail, etc.
Which, of course, have nothing whatsoever to do with DAS.
TrainsOfDisney
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well, ADA laws do apply. Are there any laws for transportation that don’t apply to a theme park attraction?
There are attractions where guests must transfer, and still others that require certain physical functions in order to safely experience a thrilling attraction - but other than that?
No one has said that ADA laws don't apply. I said that ADA Title II laws don't apply to Disney, as they are not a government entity.
No idea what the rest of your question is supposed to be.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Both Disney's theme parks and their private transportation network are covered under title III of the ADA as public accomodations. Title II doesn't apply as that's for government transportation networks.
While both are under the same portion of the ADA, of course existing accessibility standards for different types of venues/services/spaces apply.
Technically the same people complaining about waiting in lines for attractions could be asking for accommodations in the big bus depots.
Kingoglow
Well-Known Member
I think having more dedicated loading areas for individuals/groups that have trouble transferring to ride vehicles would be a HUGE quality of life improvement for ALL guests at the parks. Haunted Mansion, Little Mermaid, Pirates, Buzz and others constantly stop throughout the day to accommodate guest with various disabilities; which in turn affects the ride experiences of others.
I don't know how many guests are seated in Haunted Mansion at once, but assuming a full load, stoping the ride for even one guest impacts a lot of people.
Disney really should design a lot more dedicated loading areas for those guests as all omnimoveres and boat rides.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Doesn’t really work on an omni-mover - the boats can have side by side load stations like small world in California.
Exactly.
And now that the "DAS Defenders"
are getting some media attention using this woman, they're all giddy that Disney is going to cave.I think they've forgotten (or never knew) how much bad publicity Disney got when they eliminated GAC.
I think Disney would simply eliminate DAS for all but special cases (solo travelers, disabled guests with one other person in their party and can't wait alone, single adult with only minors in their party) before they would allow it to get back to the extreme levels it was before the changes.
The fact is, DAS is not the only way to wait outside the line.
DoubleSwitchback
Well-Known Member
I'm sure the vast majority of feedback they're getting is negative. If you support the changes, be sure to send an email!And now that the "DAS Defenders"
Agree, and I already did.
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
What do you mean they are going to cave?Exactly.
And now that the "DAS Defenders"
I think they've forgotten (or never knew) how much bad publicity Disney got when they eliminated GAC.
I think Disney would simply eliminate DAS for all but special cases (solo travelers, disabled guests with one other person in their party and can't wait alone, single adult with only minors in their party) before they would allow it to get back to the extreme levels it was before the changes.
The fact is, DAS is not the only way to wait outside the line.
What if she didn't want fame, she just wanted an accommodation.
I don't know why she can't, but I don't understand how a CM with no medical training is qualified to make that determination
Finally, there are plenty of other people speaking to the press - not in look of 15 minutes of fame, but to tell their story.