New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[jaklgreen]

Um, she had accessibility, she just didn't want to use it because she didn't want to split from her group. She wasn't asking to be approved for the DAS, she was asking for a discounted Genie+ so that she doesn't have to split from her group.

Disney is under no legal obligation to provide the preferred accommodation, just an accommodation.

What is wrong with offering a yearly discount for Genie+ for those with disabilities that go often? If Genie+ is one of the accommodations that Disney wants those with disabilities to use instead of DAS, then why do you care if they get a discount? After all, able bodied people don't NEED Genie+ but the disabled absolutely do need some kind of accommodation. And it is not unreasonable to want to stay with your group. If you didn't want to hang out with your friends and family, you would go alone. I can't fathom why anyone thinks that being able to stay with your group is somehow a bad thing or unreasonable.

 

[mkt]

Interesting, because the examples I've seen with people who waited outside the queue (non-DAS) was that there were permitted to use the LL to join their party at the merge.

Did you ask the CM about that?

I did. There have been some successes (and a few instances of a CM going above and beyond) but mostly not, with other guests flat out blocking my path to join my party at the merge and CM's who don't care and are disinterested in helping.

 

[mkt]

Your point?

Disney's aren't compliant with this.

 

[NotTheOne]

Disney's aren't compliant with this.

How so?

 

[Chi84]

Disney's aren't compliant with this.

In what way?

 

[NotTheOne]

I did. There have been some successes (and a few instances of a CM going above and beyond) but mostly not, with other guests flat out blocking my path to join my party at the merge and CM's who don't care and are disinterested in helping.

Blocking your path in the LL or standby? Meaning, if you're permitted to go through LL, I'm not sure why you would go back through standby. And if you're going through LL, not sure why you would be going past people.

 

[Splash4eva]

What is wrong with offering a yearly discount for Genie+ for those with disabilities that go often? If Genie+ is one of the accommodations that Disney wants those with disabilities to use instead of DAS, then why do you care if they get a discount? After all, able bodied people don't NEED Genie+ but the disabled absolutely do need some kind of accommodation. And it is not unreasonable to want to stay with your group. If you didn't want to hang out with your friends and family, you would go alone. I can't fathom why anyone thinks that being able to stay with your group is somehow a bad thing or unreasonable.

Its what has crippled the system have so many in your party… asking for discounts while other pay full price is downright comical. This coming from someone who has DAS.

 

[NotTheOne]

What is wrong with offering a yearly discount for Genie+ for those with disabilities that go often? If Genie+ is one of the accommodations that Disney wants those with disabilities to use instead of DAS, then why do you care if they get a discount? After all, able bodied people don't NEED Genie+ but the disabled absolutely do need some kind of accommodation. And it is not unreasonable to want to stay with your group. If you didn't want to hang out with your friends and family, you would go alone. I can't fathom why anyone thinks that being able to stay with your group is somehow a bad thing or unreasonable.

Because staying with your party is not a required accommodation. Non-disabled parties have to split up all the time for various reasons.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Agree, and I already did.

Same.

 

[flynnibus]

So naturally the only reason a disabled young lady would share her story was for “instagram fame” - it’s always the disabled they blame.

Step back for a minute...

She's asking that the company give her discounted product... so she can goto a theme park more often.. like a dozen times a year.

Keep some perspective... she's not asking to be included... she's not asking for access... She's not asking to not be homeless... She's asking for the company to give her a break on paid access to line skipping in a theme park.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Step back for a minute...

She's asking that the company give her discounted product... so she can goto a theme park more often.. like a dozen times a year.

And enjoy the theme park like I can enjoy it… like a dozen times a year.

That is literally equal treatment. I want her to be able to enjoy the parks in the same way that I do.

 

[NotTheOne]

And enjoy the theme park like I can enjoy it… like a dozen times a year.

That is literally equal treatment. I want her to be able to enjoy the parks in the same way that I do.

She can - she can wait outside the line and join her party or she can buy Genie+ if she doesn't want to utilize the offered accommodation.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Yes, she has her 15 minutes of fame now...and still no explanation as to why she can't wait in a standby line or wait outside the queue while her party waits in line.

The USA Today article that picked this up has quotes from her saying:

"One reason she said she can’t wait in long lines is because she has a trach that needs to be suctioned when she gets congested.

“Getting suctioned in a conventional line isn't what I would feel comfortable with. It’s very loud. It's an intrusive process,” she said."
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It's not clear from her statement if she's able to suction her trach herself, or if she needs assistance with that.

*Please note: I am not taking a position on whether or not she should get DAS, just sharing further information I read elsewhere related to the quote I quoted.

 

[NotTheOne]

The USA Today article that picked this up has quotes from her saying:

"One reason she said she can’t wait in long lines is because she has a trach that needs to be suctioned when she gets congested.

“Getting suctioned in a conventional line isn't what I would feel comfortable with. It’s very loud. It's an intrusive process,” she said."
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It's not clear from her statement if she's able to suction her trach herself, or if she needs assistance with that.

*Please note: I am not taking a position on whether or not she should get DAS, just sharing further information I read elsewhere related to the quote I quoted.

Thank you...interesting that she never noted that in her original video, just pointedly asking for discounted Genie+.

And if she's concerned about waiting the length of standby, she can wait outside the line and join her party...

 

[Angel Ariel]

As for the discounted genie+ thing - keep in mind this woman is a Disneyland regular, not WDW. Certain levels of AP holders at Disneyland *were* able to buy an annual MaxPass for $125/year vs paying each time they went to the park. It's been a few days since I watched her video, but from what I recall she was basically asking for a genie+ version of what that used to be.

ETA: again, not passing judgment on whether that should be done or not, just sharing that there's precedent for Disneyland AP holders to get discounted access to paid line skipping. I've heard similar requests from non-disabled Disneyland regulars to have something like that re-instituted - esp since the announcement of LLMP for WDW.

 

[jennab55]

The USA Today article that picked this up has quotes from her saying:

"One reason she said she can’t wait in long lines is because she has a trach that needs to be suctioned when she gets congested.

“Getting suctioned in a conventional line isn't what I would feel comfortable with. It’s very loud. It's an intrusive process,” she said."
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It's not clear from her statement if she's able to suction her trach herself, or if she needs assistance with that.

*Please note: I am not taking a position on whether or not she should get DAS, just sharing further information I read elsewhere related to the quote I quoted.

Interesting as I hadn’t seen a reason posted anywhere. But that appears to be one of those “could happen anywhere at any time” reasons, so it makes sense if she was denied and offered the leave the queue option. The same thing could happen to her in the LL line or anywhere else at Disney (or elsewhere).

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Certain levels of AP holders at Disneyland *were* able to buy an annual MaxPass for $125/year vs paying each time they went to the park.

And some levels (I had premiere) included it for free.

 

[jaklgreen]

Its what has crippled the system have so many in your party… asking for discounts while other pay full price is downright comical. This comical from someone who has DAS.

It is comical to actually expect those with disabilities to have to actually pay for their accommodation. Or maybe the word that we are looking for is illegal. We all know that the whole leaving the standby line is going to end up being an issue.

 

[flynnibus]

And enjoy the theme park like I can enjoy it… like a dozen times a year.

That is literally equal treatment. I want her to be able to enjoy the parks in the same way that I do.

That wasn't her request... her request was I want a price break on Genie because that's her preferred thing and I would have to buy it a lot.

She was making a choice that Genie was her preference... and wanted a discount to buy it.

I'd prefer paid line skip too over what I have to do... but just because I want to goto Disney more doesn't mean I should get sympathy for having to pay for a luxury.

 

[Chi84]

It is comical to actually expect those with disabilities to have to actually pay for their accommodation. Or maybe the word that we are looking for is illegal. We all know that the whole leaving the standby line is going to end up being an issue.

Disney is not requiring disabled people to pay for accommodations.