New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

jaklgreen

jaklgreen

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Chi84 said:
From your posts it sounds as though getting in a queue and then returning may not work well enough. Maybe try the current accommodation and then contact Disney to tell them your situation.

But your condition may be more severe than most of the people being told to return to the queue. I really don’t know how Disney can guarantee to accommodate everyone to the extent needed without giving many people more than they needed.

It’s not about the need (that’s undeniable); it’s also about Disney being able to grant an accommodation without fundamentally altering what they’re offering (and selling) to the rest of their guests.
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Sad part is that you know that there will be plenty of people like me that won't either know to ask for other accommodations or are too embarrassed to do so. I think that in them trying to make a better experience for everyone, that a lot of people with disabilities are going to be the ones to pay the price. And that is sad.
 
jaklgreen

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NotTheOne said:
What difference does it make? No reason why everyone leaving the, regardless of reason, shouldn't be treated the same upon return.
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The difference is that the average park goer is not going to have to leave almost every single line like those with disabilities will likely have to do. Imagine if every single ride that you go on, you wait 20+minutes and then your issue flairs up and you have lost all of that time for EVERY RIDE. So no, that is not everyone being treated the same because everyone does not have medical needs that keeps them from being able to wait in the longer lines.
 
Jrb1979

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jaklgreen said:
The difference is that the average park goer is not going to have to leave almost every single line like those with disabilities will likely have to do. Imagine if every single ride that you go on, you wait 20+minutes and then your issue flairs up and you have lost all of that time for EVERY RIDE. So no, that is not everyone being treated the same because everyone does not have medical needs that keeps them from being able to wait in the longer lines.
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I don't know what to tell you. The leave the line system is for everyone and it's why they can't set it up based on how long you've been in line. Than that makes it ripe for abuse.

Many forget these systems are for everyone not just a replacement for DAS. Maybe for people in your situation, you buy Genie+ to make your day easier
 
Club Cooloholic

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Basil of Baker Street

Basil of Baker Street

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jaklgreen said:
The difference is that the average park goer is not going to have to leave almost every single line like those with disabilities will likely have to do. Imagine if every single ride that you go on, you wait 20+minutes and then your issue flairs up and you have lost all of that time for EVERY RIDE. So no, that is not everyone being treated the same because everyone does not have medical needs that keeps them from being able to wait in the longer lines.
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I mean, you could just buy G+. You said you're a solo traveler? We're talking 30 bucks to ensure you have worry free day.
 
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Splash4eva

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Basil of Baker Street said:
I mean, you could just buy G+. You said you're a solo traveler? We're talking 30 buck to ensure you have worry free day.
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Altho i do agree and do purchase Genie+ when im there ( i know this was to me) but that mindset is Exactly what Disney was and is hoping for when they made these changes… lets not kid ourselves at all to their ultimate motive to what they wanted to accomplish here.
 
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jaklgreen said:
The difference is that the average park goer is not going to have to leave almost every single line like those with disabilities will likely have to do. Imagine if every single ride that you go on, you wait 20+minutes and then your issue flairs up and you have lost all of that time for EVERY RIDE. So no, that is not everyone being treated the same because everyone does not have medical needs that keeps them from being able to wait in the longer lines.
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That's a very precise condition, one that flares in every 20 minute standby ride but not an issue with 20 minute LL and ride combo...
 
Kingoglow

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Splash4eva said:
For everyone and that is also somewhat my point. This group my guess is such a small number where even if someone “lied” about how long they were in line for. Would it really kill Disney/CM to just say okay we trust you if you said you have been in line for X amount of minutes already. Like we are splitting hairs here.
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But that is the point of a queue. You are in a queue-line in the order of who is next to be served. If a party leaves a queue and returns, you have to line up at the end of the queue. That is the experience that everyone expects.
 
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Splash4eva

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Kingoglow said:
But that is the point of a queue. You are in a queue-line in the order of who is next to be served. If a party leaves a queue and returns, you have to line up at the end of the queue. That is the experience that everyone expects.
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Again unless im not understanding what Disney is doing to those denied DAS but the impression seemed to be their would be fair options if someone needed to leave a line… we can agree or debate what us fair but to me losing that time spent in line is Not fair for anyone tbh…
 
Kingoglow

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jaklgreen said:
Does the average park goer typically have to leave almost every line though? I don't think so. I know for my medical condition, anything over 20 minutes would be really pushing it for me. And then when I get flair ups, I am not going on anything for at least 90 minutes until the flair up is done. Does that sound like a typical park goer?
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You medical condition realities definitely does not describe the typical park goer. However, the accommodation provided to any non-DAS user is to return to the back of the queue in the case(s) where the entire party has to leave the line.
 
Kingoglow

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jaklgreen said:
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I have said this before, but Disney made themselves to be a place where those with disabilities could have a somewhat normal day. For many, Disney is the only amusement park where people can go because they are so good about accommodation. Can we try not to be so heartless.
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I would add that we are all well aware of the number of guest-poistive accommodations and amenities that Disney has changed or removed recently (like Magical Express and direct-to-room luggage service). The resort experience is changing and the changes to DAS qualification is now in the spotlight.

Just because Disney is changing the rules around DAS qualification while broadening the rules around other accommodations, the fact that we are discussing these changes (in-depth) does not make people heartless.
 
Disstevefan1

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I am optimistic about the wait times in WDW

Attendance in WDW will most likely plummet due to EPIC and wait times for both DAS and non DAS folks will be low.

My theory falls apart if WDW drastically cuts staff as a result of EPIC.
 
Club Cooloholic

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
Disneys solution, at least according to a lot of the posters on the forum, is to offer the box/ramp as a paid upgrade (Genie/ILL), if the disabled kid wants to see the game, he already paid to see, he just has to pay extra for the ramp. Problem solved.
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Or, some folks think the guy on the left should just wave to the other two as they head to a seat right next to the team bench.
 

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