Chi84
Premium Member
I thought we moved past that after the suggestion that DAS users be placed in large rooms while waiting.
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New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024
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Splash4eva
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It doesnt fit the narrative they are trying to sell…
MickeyLuv'r
Well-Known Member
DAS doesn't work the way many folks would like to have it work. It would probably be best if the discussion here could stay focused on DAS as it currently exists.
Chi84
Premium Member
What narrative is that?
DoubleSwitchback
Well-Known Member
This is what Tokyo does...
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
To me the conversations about doing something else while waiting for your DAS time, and speculating about how Disney should be handling line exits, are both similar in that they’re both fairly pointless since Disney has made it pretty clear neither are currently problems needing solving.
Chi84
Premium Member
Many people, including posters here, have already decided Disney will not be able to handle line exits well enough to adequately accommodate people with disabilities. I hope that’s not true.
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Seems like any non das user basically feels das users are the enemy (forgetting the legit need for them) and basically should not be allowed to do
Anything other than booking rides via das and in between if they had their way have people stuffed in a locked room
MickeyLuv'r
Well-Known Member
My first thought was, "Can Disney make money off it?"
Then I remembered, MK tried adding tents a few years back, but they weren't free. They also didn't last very long.
Now Disney plans to add a DVC lounge where the shootin' arcade now stands. (Last day is today) So DVCer's are going to get such a space.
Chip Chipperson
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Who is forgetting it? I think everyone acknowdges that it is allowed. But it can also be taken away - IF Disney wants to spend the money to be able to stop it.
I have to chuckle at people who insist the old cheaters are just gonna continue cheating but in more convoluted ways regarding the AQR/RTQ.
Listen, not every CM is that dumb and not every cheater is that smart. Way back in the paper rider swaps, CMs could very often tell who was lying. Parent one goes into the SB line with the pass in hand, parent two waits out with kid who is tall enough but just “doesn’t want to ride.” 5-10 minutes later, parent 1 exits the SB thinking they can grab parent 2 and kid and hop in the FP line. As soon as I saw that parent leave, I’d stop them and sweetly say, “oh I’ll hold on to your rider swap until you come back later!” They knew they were caught, so they’d just sheeply say, “oh, thanks…” and wouldn’t come back while I was at greeter. Maybe they tried again later, but they wasted so much time the first time, like, they could have just waited in SB and saved themselves the hassle and face. Or the guests who would just vaguely point to some lady holding a baby a few yards away acting as though that was the other part of the party, even though she wasn’t looking in our direction. I’m not saying I caught all of the liars, and I’m not saying every other CM cared enough to call them out. But I heard enough stories from fellow CMs to know that I was not alone in stopping these cheaters. And it would have to be EXHAUSTING to try cheating at every single attraction all trip long, knowing it’s a gamble. ESPECIALLY now that CMs can see what reentry passes have already been granted to them.
(And I should also say cheaters using this method were thankfully few and far between, probably due to the inherent unpredictability of success coupled with the effort involved.)
Essentially, the guests would have to be extremely sly, and it does NOT sound easy, and it definitely doesn’t sound guaranteed. I really think everyone needs to stop panicking about potential cheaters until we actually have proof of it happening at high levels.
Listen, not every CM is that dumb and not every cheater is that smart. Way back in the paper rider swaps, CMs could very often tell who was lying. Parent one goes into the SB line with the pass in hand, parent two waits out with kid who is tall enough but just “doesn’t want to ride.” 5-10 minutes later, parent 1 exits the SB thinking they can grab parent 2 and kid and hop in the FP line. As soon as I saw that parent leave, I’d stop them and sweetly say, “oh I’ll hold on to your rider swap until you come back later!” They knew they were caught, so they’d just sheeply say, “oh, thanks…” and wouldn’t come back while I was at greeter. Maybe they tried again later, but they wasted so much time the first time, like, they could have just waited in SB and saved themselves the hassle and face. Or the guests who would just vaguely point to some lady holding a baby a few yards away acting as though that was the other part of the party, even though she wasn’t looking in our direction. I’m not saying I caught all of the liars, and I’m not saying every other CM cared enough to call them out. But I heard enough stories from fellow CMs to know that I was not alone in stopping these cheaters. And it would have to be EXHAUSTING to try cheating at every single attraction all trip long, knowing it’s a gamble. ESPECIALLY now that CMs can see what reentry passes have already been granted to them.
(And I should also say cheaters using this method were thankfully few and far between, probably due to the inherent unpredictability of success coupled with the effort involved.)
Essentially, the guests would have to be extremely sly, and it does NOT sound easy, and it definitely doesn’t sound guaranteed. I really think everyone needs to stop panicking about potential cheaters until we actually have proof of it happening at high levels.
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Same way Disney can spend the money to know how long a guest has waite in line…
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
When Dumbo switched locations and added the waiting room style queue I want to say there were rumblings of this coming to more attractions. Did RnRC have an experimental waiting area once or was it just rumored? Didn’t seem to pan out.
I think the last things these parks need right now is more people milling around to be honest. They don’t have enough low effort activities or places to just hang out for the most part. That’s just speaking about the general public, not DAS.
I think it’s way easier for Disney to keep DAS around than it would be to deal with the logistics and issues that would pop up with a ‘waiting room’ for each attraction.
I think the last things these parks need right now is more people milling around to be honest. They don’t have enough low effort activities or places to just hang out for the most part. That’s just speaking about the general public, not DAS.
I think it’s way easier for Disney to keep DAS around than it would be to deal with the logistics and issues that would pop up with a ‘waiting room’ for each attraction.
MickeyLuv'r
Well-Known Member
Disney could do a lot of things, that's true.
If Disney wanted to further restrict DAS usage, I have a feeling they'd choose the easiest/lowest cost option.
Chip Chipperson
Well-Known Member
Exactly. That was the point being made to you - if you got your way on that matter then it would likely lead to the other being taken away using the same tapstiles and tracking, hence another poster telling you to be careful what you wish for.
Chi84
Premium Member
That seems an overstatement.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
But how? Even spending millions to install touchpoints at the attraction entrances wouldn’t stop the cheaters you are worried about
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
And i already replied to that… it wouldnt bother me if Disney took away that “perk”. Either way removing the ability for a D list attraction thats a walk serves noone any purpose and if that was the trade off for non das users not to have the clock reset i would be TOTALLY okay with that… as ive stated im not someone who has preached give give give without giving anything back
Splash4eva
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Im not worried about cheaters bc since day 1 when this was announced i said cheaters are gonna cheat and liars are gonna lie. No matter what disney puts in place. Its the nature of life. Ive already loosely seen what people have said and done to be qualified during the next phase of DAS… so it took what? Less than a month?