TrainsOfDisney
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I don’t believe this is an accurate statement.
I also don’t think any of those numbers are any different than I’m used to seeing in the parks.
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New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024
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I also don’t think any of those numbers are any different than I’m used to seeing in the parks.
We just got back and my mom was a previous DAS user. Would not have qualified under the new rules so didn't even try. We just would talk to a cast member at lines longer than 45 minutes. She would wait for us in a cool spot which was recommend by cast member and we would call her when we got close and they let her come through the lightning lane to meet up with us. It worked perfectly for us and no one in the line behind us got angry or upset. We also used the RTQ several times with a small child who needed to potty and again no fights broke out. It was actually a great trip and the lines were not bad at all. Curious if the cut backs on the DAS helped with that.
We also didn't think we were missing out on any family time because we are flexible and appreciate the accommodations they did offer us. It wasn't hard to meet them half way.
We also didn't think we were missing out on any family time because we are flexible and appreciate the accommodations they did offer us. It wasn't hard to meet them half way.
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Vacationeer
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- In the Parks
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Were 7DMT and FoP 55 minutes or less?
We’ve come to expect 7DMT ~90 minutes and FoP off the charts in the 100+ range midday.
We’ve come to expect 7DMT ~90 minutes and FoP off the charts in the 100+ range midday.
Vacationeer
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
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That’s great to hear. Time will tell how all this settles down. It is encouraging to read a success story!
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Well it’s still “mid day” 7 dwarves is currently 45 and FOP is at 60.
Rise is the current leader at 90
Rise is the current leader at 90
Chi84
Premium Member
I’m not surprised. Change is hard for everyone, especially at first. I expect things will settle down after an adjustment period.
The case then was laughable, and suing over these changes would be even more so.
Suing because you (generic you) don't like an accommodation is a waste of time and money.
Perhaps that woman should have asked a CM prior to entering the line what she would need to do if she needed to exit. I guess I shouldn't be shocked that some people who don't get what they want (DAS) take no responsibility for trying to make other accommodations work.
They aren’t charging extra for access, though. They’re providing access via Return to Queue, rider swap and other accommodations.
If you don’t like this, you have the option to pay for a more enjoyable experience.
They're already addressing both sides - DAS is just one of multiple accommodations offered.
As for what "young Americans" expect, perhaps this would be a good time for them to learn the difference between expectations and actual legal requirements.
Do you have any info that would dispute the numbers?
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
It wasn’t laughable - one of the great things about this country is the freedom and right to hire a lawyer when you feel you have been wronged. While our legal system is far from perfect, many ADA rights have been and are being won because of “laughable” cases.
The post I was responding to was suggesting that Genie+ was available, just not free. Meaning the access was available, but not for free.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Which numbers? I’m not disputing the current wait times.
DisneyHead123
Well-Known Member
I’m not talking about legal requirements. I’m talking about capitalism, which involves selling oneself.
Disney is free to say “We don’t have to do more!” Cool. That may or may not play out in court. But the more important point is that consumers can decide where they want to go. I’m saying I think they need to do more to make their park user friendly.
Have you even read the case in question? It was laughable, and the plaintiff was pretty much eviscerated.
I have no issue with people hiring lawyers and suing if they feel they have a case, and I agree that valuable changes have come out of some valid cases. But this case wasn't one of them. I wish Disney had followed through and recovered costs, as the court allowed them to.
We'll see. I'm all for these changes, and I'm glad that Disney finally did something to address the abuse AND the overuse. I just hope they don't get lax like they did with DAS previously, or we'll be right back to the same place in a few years.
Chi84
Premium Member
First of all, you edited my post to take what I said out of content. I’m sure it wasn’t intentional - just done to shorten it.
Second, that’s not at all what I meant. Free access is still available through in-line accommodations. Disney isn’t charging for that access.
Access through Genie+ is available to all guests, but it’s not free.
Splash4eva
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Ill be honest noone was annoyed they were denier DAS they were all just in the same boat that they were told they would be accommodated if something came up and none
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Again read what my other response. None were nasty none were loud. They i guess are just looking for answers and when she asked what do i do next time the plain in Gs literally did NOT have an answer for her
OK, but again, (and I know you probably don't know the answer to this, it's rhetorical) did she and the others ask prior to entering the line or after? Because I'm seeing plenty of people on other sites saying that asked ahead of time, and when they had an issue, they were accommodated by meeting with their party at the merge after returning through the LL.