DisneyCane
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Or require a reserv.........oh nevermindOr limit how many tickets are sold
Or require a reserv.........oh nevermindOr limit how many tickets are sold
I don't think you need to explain anything here. The only people you need to explain to are the ones approving DAS for your daughter. You aren't the one abusing the system that caused this whole mess.This is why the individual need matters. A person can be able to handle the outdoor walkways, general location of the parks, etc- and thrive and crave the rides themselves, while also having disability-related issues that result in struggles with the queue environment.
Honestly, it sucks to try and explain it here because explaining gives people a roadmap to abuse, but not explaining just leads to a lot of assumptions that these caregivers are being irresponsible.
Not being snarky here, it's just truly exhausting and defeating. Yeah, it's complicated to understand, I do truly get that. And. It's 1,000 more times complicated to live through every day.
Well it depends on your reference point! They increased capacity an infinite amount when they reopened after COVID. That's a mathematical fact!That one had me thinking the mushrooms I had for lunch were “field grade” and not farm grade…
…reopening a closed ride is in no way “adding capacity”
…don’t poke the bear, dudeWell it depends on your reference point! They increased capacity an infinite amount when they reopened after COVID. That's a mathematical fact!
I think the ratio between LL and stand-by will become much more equitable.Im curious to get peoples opinion …. What do you think is going to happen to wait times once this “new” version of DAS comes out to standby lines? I genuinely would like to get everyones thoughts.
This would interfere with 250 -500k they make a day on VIP tours. ( some days more) and 33.Would "fixing" DAS be a first step at potentially providing a different skip the line alternative that isn't complicated? If I were Disney, I'd just offer a very expensive all-access once per ride express line offering. No onsite guests get it for free, maybe a discounted price. This would then allow them to artificially reduce the number of guests utilizing it, and reduce the number of attractions required to run/justify the lack of capacity with the amount of guests utilizing Genie.
I would then start charging skip the line access at some of the meet & greet locations and preferred seating at stage shows.
Im curious to get peoples opinion …. What do you think is going to happen to wait times once this “new” version of DAS comes out to standby lines? I genuinely would like to get everyones thoughts.
Yeah, I'm not buying WDW is doing 100+ VIP tours a day.This would interfere with 250 -500k they make a day on VIP tours. ( some days more) and 33.
Not to sound rude but im looking for a number. If a ride is current say 60 minutes where do you see it going? 45 minutes become what? A 90 minute wait?I think the ratio between LL and stand-by will become much more equitable.
Maybe…that was a 3 year thread with nothing to talk aboutI am hoping this thread will be longer than the Coronavirus and Walt Disney World thread 5124 pages!
We can do it!!
Standby is going to increase a lot. I could a 60 minute wait becoming 90 minutes easy. IMO that's not they are trying to fix. The point of the changes is to open up more availability for those who purchase Genie+.Not to sound rude but im looking for a number. If a ride is current say 60 minutes where do you see it going? 45 minutes become what? A 90 minute wait?
I have from solid sources that on the high demand days it's 125.Yeah, I'm not buying WDW is doing 100+ VIP tours a day.
So now standby which has been a ton of peoples complaints will end up worse is what you think happens. So in theory Genie+ hows higher priced and once again Disney says sc*ew you to regular paying guests.Standby is going to increase a lot. I could a 60 minute wait becoming 90 minutes easy. IMO that's not they are trying to fix. The point of the changes is to open up more availability for those who purchase Genie+.
Not to sound rude but im looking for a number. If a ride is current say 60 minutes where do you see it going? 45 minutes become what? A 90 minute wait?
So basically everyone is happy Disney will charge more people more money and standby lines will go nowhere all in the name of potentially a small percentage who lie and cheat which i may add will still lie and cheat going forwardProbably 5 to 10 mins either way. Not a lot. The "abuse" being "eliminated" is not going to be all that much at all. Eventually within a couple years the DAS will become as freely available as it is now, for reasons.
It’s not about making anyone happy. It’s about making more $$$.Having read through most of this thread, I’m convinced this is nothing more than shuffling the deck chairs on a sinking titanic.
People say keep saying these changes will send the abusers to the standby line, or make them buy genie+. Okay, well, either way, it still equates to a long standby queue either by virtue of more people in it or by the same number of people in the LL line but just via genie+ instead of DAS. And if more people are buying genie+, then that line isn’t getting any shorter either. I don’t see how any of this will make anyone happier.
Disney has a wait time problem, but they’re trying to fix the wrong part first.
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