How do you know that? Are you privy to how many are SUPPOSED to be in the LL? It is literally the line for DAS so of course they will be there. For you to say so with such conviction, you would have to know the numbers on how many Genie+ they sell, how many have a DAS that day, etc. And none of us has that information.
If that's not going to work, what is your solution that doesn't require DAS?This is what I am saying. If you are 30 minutes into a 70 minute line, how the heck are you getting out to meet these needs? The whole "excuse me, excuse me" while you hope you don't soil your pants is going to be fun.Then try to find the nearest cast member and explain while you are in your emergency state? It think that the people that came up with this have never had to wait in a line.
We don't know the full data but you can't tell me that DAS talking up the majority of LL capacity is what's supposed to be the case either. Disney knows what they want the capacity to be and it's why they are changing it.
I'll probably get flak for this take but here it goes anyways.This is what I am saying. If you are 30 minutes into a 70 minute line, how the heck are you getting out to meet these needs? The whole "excuse me, excuse me" while you hope you don't soil your pants is going to be fun.
There is no other solution. If people have these medical conditions, they should be able to do what they need to do. I am not against the coming and going out of the line IF it was actually doable. But we all have been in the lines and they are tight. I can't see a situation where coming and going through a line is going to work. They don't have the physical space for people to keep coming and going, especially if that person is in a chair/ECV.
Read the post above.
You consistently have to go 2-3-4 times an hour to use the toilet? And you get out of every single line at least once to do so? Because that is me. And I travel solo so I don't have anyone to hold my place in line. What do you suggest that I do? I am all ears.
I mean, you're talking like the LL is instant access to an attraction. End to end, you're lucky if you're in and out of an attraction through LL inside of 30 minutes. So the 2-3-4 times per hour wouldn't work either way. But yes, when it starts. It's usually about 3-6 times before the episode ends. Which is why I miss the attraction.
In some cases they are because G+/ILL lines account for more overall capacity than standby on popular rides. For example, take a ride that is required to run at 90/10 G+/standby (which we know happens and can be as bad as 99/1). That means that 90% of the overall capacity is being given to some form of front of line service. Assuming 70% of that 90% is DAS, that works out to 63% of the total ride utilization just for DAS users. We have CMs on here who talk about having to run rides at the 90/10 ratio and we others saying they see at least 60% DAS usage regularly so these numbers don't seem that farfetched.They are not using 40-70% of the ride capacity. That number was how many were in the LL, which is a line designed to have a fraction of what the standby line holds. I think you all are misunderstanding the numbers here. And of course there will be DAS users in the line, that is where they are supposed to be. That is like saying that you can't believe that 100% of the cars waiting in line at a car wash are there to get their car's washed. That's THEIR line.
You made the call for yourself and that's great. But "from your perspective" is the key here.
I think it'll be both VQ and ILL, no standby.
That makes sense.
If Len’s % is correct that means the amount if people using DAS NOT the issue. 10% or lower is Not a big number at all in regards to overall guests. Ive said countless times. Eliminate the 2 pre books. Cut party (they have) not legal but limit to 1 ride per day for DAS user and then if you want to re ride you are say only allowed to bring 1 other person with you and other can wait in line and in theory reach attraction at same time. The wait time to rebook will help a little.
Even if they cut this % in half the usage in theory will be the same and still take up more than it should. Until they change HOW the system works NOT who is allowed this will be an ongoing issue. Again get rid of the pre bookings. Cut down party size maybe even more and on re rides say allow only 1 other guest everyone else needs to wait in line and can meet at the front or something along those lines. Way better than having a ton of people in and out if lines etc raising their hands like we are in grade school. As a DAS user i would not be upset if they only allowed say 1 re ride or something “limiting” me.
But how is this abuse when the % is so low… can you blame someone for re riding something? Can you blame someone for adding as many guests that are allowed? Seems like the “tour groups” that are taking basically strangers are the issue. I visit once a year with the same people im sure disney sees that the same way they may see some other person who is there all the time with different people constantly.
If they can't get the overall usage down then I am sure we will see changes/tweaks until they get it to where it is sustainable including some that you mention. If not, they will eventually be forced to go to a system that does require proof.
