TrainsOfDisney
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All I’m suggesting is be a little more lenient on where that line is - not saying there shouldn’t be a line and perhaps it should be more strict than in the past.
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New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024
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Then again, we'll just agree to disagree. I think Disney is definitely on the right track.
Splash4eva
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For starters majority of the liars will be gone. People who get denied no longer has a complaint because now a medical team is the one reviewing things & then disney can do like uni does determine what accommodations are needed…
Splash4eva
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Listen. I know im only 1 person but LL waits were not as bad as people have claimed sans when a ride goes down & initially comes back up granted this happens more than it should now at disney but i would say i had no waits more than 10 minutes anywhere for most part max close 15 a few times & that was a stretch. If that wait is too much than honestly i dont wanna sound mean people may need to re think where they travel bc 10 minutes is literally shorter than some ride lengths!
Pretty sure that IBCCES doesn't use medical people to review the documentation.
But again, from my perspective, it's a moot point because pretty much anyone can fake medical documentation, and then Disney is still having to decide.
As with a previous poster, we'll just agree to disagree on this point.
Your last point is interesting, since it seems that you're basically saying if the accommodation isn't useful, then people should just stay home.
To be clear, I'm not agreeing with that, it's just how I'm interpreting your post.
Splash4eva
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Listen i have DAS and need it as well as my Mom when she comes… all im saying is this… if people are complaining that 10 minutes is too much what more do they want Disney and other companies to provide for them? Disney basically won that battle already w the GAC cases and its tough to say i cant wait on a 10 min LL yet be able to sit on a ride that last longer than 10 minutes… take it any way you want but at some point everyone needs to be realistic as well.
Chi84
Premium Member
Sorry!Where have I heard this before. I think we have all started to skip the record a bit and are repeating ourselves.
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Club Cooloholic
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Oh me included, no need to apologize!
Jenny72
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I don't think it's impossible to track these things, just that keeping that kind of record would be a complete violation. Remember that they'd have to keep records of behavior for both "liars" and legitimately disabled people. Would disabled people really want a record of the duration and frequency of their restroom visits, the nature and severity of their panic attacks? And how would those conversations go? Would the guests be challenged with the specific number of their restroom visits and a demand for an explanation?
Splash4eva
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Okay here me out for just a minute… its been said by insiders which we all have agreed upon about 8% of guests have DAS NOT counting their party. Lets face it that is NOT a large number i think we can agree there overall it really isnt… with that being said you weed out the liars and bs artist exaggerating their issues you can probably get that number down to say 5%. This is where the issue rises. Party size. Once you limit that to what has been discussed here eliminate the pre books you dont have a major issue where the issue lied was re rides. Trust me as a DAS user i promise you that is Your BIGGEST problem and i know im theory it would be a legal battle but they could have found a way to limit it to riding something once and not allowed until x hours later and dealt w the small drawback they may have had… but some vlogger who is posting all their videos yet claiming xyz is an issue is comical same with their own employees. It was not that not difficult. They wanted to sell more Genie it was that simple which is fine. But they didnt need to implode the system either
Ravenclaw78
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Most LL's are <10 minutes or even walk-on, but I've absolutely had LL waits of 20+ minutes. Usually it's with dark rides. TSMM and IASW are the most likely of the attractions we typically use DAS at (we don't do coasters often) to have waits over 15 minutes. Frozen, Peter Pan, and Pirates sometimes hit that mark, but it's not the norm. Otherwise, it's only when a ride is running at partial capacity.
Club Cooloholic
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No, I think as the population ages, more adults go to Disney without children, more people are going to say they qualify. We know the numbers continue to increase.
Fido Chuckwagon
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As has been posted elsewhere in this thread, there is a real difference between an adult with a disability (who has agency) and a child who has a disability (who does not). This is especially true for those disabilities this new system seems designed for, those with severe developmental/neurological disabilities. Disney should absolutely be giving preference to children over adults.
Fido Chuckwagon
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Insiders have said that is not the motivation and I absolutely believe it. The das abuse/overuse/poweruse was degrading the park experience for EVERYONE else, including those who legitimately need DAS.
tonythetigerasn
Member
Many of the posters calling for Disney to expose the liars and cheaters have been the most strongly defending those with disabilities in this thread. I just find it really hard to believe that there would be support if Disney announced it was tracking DAS users and banning some. That's laughable. What if those same "cheaters" went public with a doctor's note for heat intolerance?
I continue to think the focus on "cheaters" is misleading. I think that complete scamming was a small fraction of the issues with the system, and, as a poster just said, whatever Disney managed to cut the users to, they would continue to rise. I think gaming the system or taking full advantage of it (adding several adult children or friends, having IBS that is under control but getting DAS anyway, etc.) could be considered cheating. I think Disney has managed to cut a lot of that behavior with these changes.
I continue to think the focus on "cheaters" is misleading. I think that complete scamming was a small fraction of the issues with the system, and, as a poster just said, whatever Disney managed to cut the users to, they would continue to rise. I think gaming the system or taking full advantage of it (adding several adult children or friends, having IBS that is under control but getting DAS anyway, etc.) could be considered cheating. I think Disney has managed to cut a lot of that behavior with these changes.
Figgy1
Premium Member
Those that still qualify do not outgrow their challenges
Figgy1
Premium Member
I still don't understand the term over use as you can't do more as it's still waiting the same amount of time only elsewhere
tonythetigerasn
Member
No standby guests are able to wait in other lines while waiting on a DAS return time (effectively doubling what you can ride). No other guests can stand in line while eating lunch, watching the parade, or doing any other park activities. DAS users are able to take up virtual space in "line" all day from open until close if they use the system to its max. They may well have had higher daily ride numbers than those with G+.
Figgy1
Premium Member
Please explain it to me like I'm stupid because I still don't get it