Glad it worked out! We often plan our trips for less busy times and rope drop for the reasons you listed.
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New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024
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Fido Chuckwagon
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It’s not false. The window is now 2hours outside of the 1 hour stated return time. Source: Me. I was there two weeks ago and did this multiple times at multiple parks. This has also been reported by others including All Ears and Disney Food Blog.
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Fido Chuckwagon
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It is not up to the CM on duty. It was happening automatically. Mine scanned in green before the CM could even look at their screens.
Disstevefan1
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Yes, I understand that now. it seems there is a 2 hour grace period.
Fido Chuckwagon
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It is definitely a fixed 2 hour grace period.
Fido Chuckwagon
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Mostly because people who are upset they no longer have DAS keep incorrectly pointing out “the LLMP return times are too strict to possibly work for us” and keep having to be corrected when they incorrectly post the misinformation that the return window grace period is still only 15 minutes. The people who are posting this misinformation are doing a disservice to their fellow persons with disabilities who might be reading this thread hoping to get useful information.
The return time grace period is 2 hours after your initial hour expires, for a total window of 3 hours. This has been reported all over the place including by reputable bloggers who have posted videos about it. Anyone who is posting otherwise at this point has an ulterior motive.
Disstevefan1
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I am very happy to now know there is the 2 hour grace period! This could help folks who have real limitations who previously qualified for the old DAS system and now do not qualify for the new DAS system.
Fido Chuckwagon
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And the fact that this rolled out around the same time as the DAS changes is likely not a coincidence. The idea that someone who previously relied on DAS “cannot possibly make LLMP work as substitution“ just doesn’t mesh with reality for the vast majority of parkgoers.
Vegas Disney Fan
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Another thing I forgot to mention is the LL/DAS lines were substantially shorter than they were the last couple years, one of our major complaints when we tried Genie+ was we felt ripped off having to often wait 30 minutes after paying extra for a “short” line, our other major complaint as DAS users is we’d often have to leave the DAS lines because they were so long we couldn’t physically stand in them for that long.
The new system is far from perfect but the old system was far from perfect also, hopefully Disney will continue to make adjustments because it feels like they’ve gone from being too lenient to too restrictive, hopefully they’ll find a nice middle ground that accommodates more disabilities without being overran with abuse again.
The new system is far from perfect but the old system was far from perfect also, hopefully Disney will continue to make adjustments because it feels like they’ve gone from being too lenient to too restrictive, hopefully they’ll find a nice middle ground that accommodates more disabilities without being overran with abuse again.
Wendy Pleakley
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The original Fastpass had an indefinite grace period, which was changed because people abused it.
People would stack or save them for the evening and Fastpass return lines would end up the same as standby.
Which is to say, the flexibility is there for guest benefit, but can change again as warranted. Just something to remember when planning a trip, that rules can change.
People would stack or save them for the evening and Fastpass return lines would end up the same as standby.
Which is to say, the flexibility is there for guest benefit, but can change again as warranted. Just something to remember when planning a trip, that rules can change.
Disstevefan1
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Chi84
Premium Member
Right but you can't rely on something that isn't posted policy because it can change without warning. That's what a lot of people find so frustrating about Disney; they don't publish anything. If you call them three times, you'll get three different answers. And if you email, you'll get a standard "cast member discretion based on business needs" response. I don't know if there's even a way for them to be more specific - it's their business.
I don't disagree with anything you are saying; that was our experience too just recently and it's good to put that information out there. I do understand the frustration with having no information from the actual source of the policy, but it's always been that way and is not going to change.
Angel Ariel
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Posting what people thought to be true is not posting disinformation. I truly did not know of the 2 hour grace before you mentioned it. I follow touting plans and all ears and had still missed these articles. There is no ulterior motive.
Angel Ariel
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I also agree with the bolded. That there's a 2 hour grace now is great. I still don't know that I'm confident in spending hundreds of dollars on a product when the aspect of the product we need to make it work for us can be changed at any point without notice. Again, not disinformation - just an individual family's decision about whether or not that is a risk worth taking.