Ah ok, this makes more sense then. I was thinking I’ve seen others get the override for all their minor children. I get it still sucks though as he is still your immediate family. Seems they are cutting off adult children in that count.
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New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024
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Club Cooloholic
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I don't think it's an issue of weeding out liars per say. I am sure there is a great percentage of people that feel to enjoy the parks fully, they would need the type of accomodations that DAS supplied otherwise, physically or mentally they could not do it. But some people can't fully enjoy Central Park on a nice summer day either because of noise, crowds or the sheer size of it is too daunting for their bodies physically, but they don't get a free carriage ride or bike rental to get around.
This isn't so much a change to weed out 'liars" as it is a change in criteria for the type of person that gets DAS.
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seabreezept813
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Ya we’re hoping that they’ll help us out at the parks. We’re easygoing, nonconfrontational, and my daughter will prob need her DAS 2-3 times a day. But we’re not worried about it and are glad she’ll be able to do a few things that would have been harder or unmanageable without it.
Tigger&Pooh
Active Member
That wording about immediate family was removed quite a while ago, almost right after it was posted. It wasn’t up for very long.
TrainsOfDisney
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Eh, that’s an exaggeration in my opinion. Getting a little stricter on DAS policies would have been a good place to start and then evaluate from there.
you don’t really wait in lines at Central Park - not sure how that is relatable at all.
Chi84
Premium Member
I think Disney's goal is to sell its paid system to everyone who wants to avoid standing in lines - and to make an exception only for those who cannot, because of a disability, be accommodated in the standby lines. Getting "a little stricter" with DAS would not have furthered that goal.
Fido Chuckwagon
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As they should.
Club Cooloholic
Well-Known Member
Who is talking about lines? I'm talking about experiencing the Park
I don't know how you can get "stricter" and actually improve operations when, those unhappy with the changes want the baseline to simply be stating you have a disability and all disabilities should be treated to the same exact accomodations. Those that want stricter seem to imply that their claimed disability would qualify but others are exaggerating, but then quickly also say we don't know what it's like to be in another's body. How can you get stricter without it turning into a process based on assumption?
The only way to be fair is to have a very clear delineation of who qualifies and who doesn't and have it NOT based on comfort or pain claims as those are impossible to quantify or qualify.
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Splash4eva
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Oh i totally agree there
Splash4eva
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What they should and need to do is simply go to a 3rd party verification system. Anyone with a real disability that needs the help would 100% have no issues showing proof
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Anybody can experience Central Park any way they want to.
Reduce the number of guests in the party and reduce the return time so standby waits can be accurately posted. There’s a start.
Beyond that moving the line to be a little more restrictive, but not as restrictive as they have gone.
Figgy1
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Are you talking about family members or the disabled
Tigger&Pooh
Active Member
I expect Disney has plenty of data that guided their decision. Making a small adjustment first, then another small adjustment in 4-6 months, then another small adjustment 4-6 months after that... simply drags out the whole process and nobody knows what rules are being used. Ripping the bandaid (so to speak) like they did with the big change is really the only logical way for the company to do it.
How do you actively weed out liars? And please don't say documentation, because documentation a) can be falsified and b) documents a disability, not the needs.
That does zero regarding accommodations because not everyone with the same diagnosis has the same needs when it comes to accommodations.
TrainsOfDisney
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How are they doing it now?
For one, taking small steps to make it less attractive - no more pre-selects, limited party size, and the 10 minute wait. Lots more they could (and IMO, should) do, but at least it's a start.
More intense questioning and not just going with "I have XYZ and need a DAS", plus medical professionals who can help weed out people who won't know how to answer some of the questions they're asking.
Your turn now.
flynnibus
Premium Member
? Most doctor's notes in these regards would cover what a person should be limited from doing and/or their limitations.
Your note to your employer about your back doesn't just say "spinal stenosis" it says "should not lift more than 50lbs" "should not sit stationary for longer than 60mins" etc.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
So do all that, just don’t be so restrictive on which disabilities don’t qualify.
That’s what is being suggested. Be more strict than in the past, but don’t say no to people with legit disabilities - it’s a bad look.
Splash4eva
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How is that any different than what Disney has been doing now… going to a 3rd party in theory would reduce the amount of people using the system…