Pretty sure that IBCCES doesn't use medical people to review the documentation.
Your last point is interesting, since it seems that you're basically saying if the accommodation isn't useful, then people should just stay home.
Listen i have DAS and need it as well as my Mom when she comes… all im saying is this… if people are complaining that 10 minutes is too much what more do they want Disney and other companies to provide for them? Disney basically won that battle already w the GAC cases and its tough to say i cant wait on a 10 min LL yet be able to sit on a ride that last longer than 10 minutes… take it any way you want but at some point everyone needs to be realistic as well.
Sorry!Where have I heard this before. I think we have all started to skip the record a bit and are repeating ourselves.
Oh me included, no need to apologize!
Okay here me out for just a minute… its been said by insiders which we all have agreed upon about 8% of guests have DAS NOT counting their party. Lets face it that is NOT a large number i think we can agree there overall it really isnt… with that being said you weed out the liars and bs artist exaggerating their issues you can probably get that number down to say 5%. This is where the issue rises. Party size. Once you limit that to what has been discussed here eliminate the pre books you dont have a major issue where the issue lied was re rides. Trust me as a DAS user i promise you that is Your BIGGEST problem and i know im theory it would be a legal battle but they could have found a way to limit it to riding something once and not allowed until x hours later and dealt w the small drawback they may have had… but some vlogger who is posting all their videos yet claiming xyz is an issue is comical same with their own employees. It was not that not difficult. They wanted to sell more Genie it was that simple which is fine. But they didnt need to implode the system either
Most LL's are <10 minutes or even walk-on, but I've absolutely had LL waits of 20+ minutes. Usually it's with dark rides. TSMM and IASW are the most likely of the attractions we typically use DAS at (we don't do coasters often) to have waits over 15 minutes. Frozen, Peter Pan, and Pirates sometimes hit that mark, but it's not the norm. Otherwise, it's only when a ride is running at partial capacity.
No, I think as the population ages, more adults go to Disney without children, more people are going to say they qualify. We know the numbers continue to increase.
As has been posted elsewhere in this thread, there is a real difference between an adult with a disability (who has agency) and a child who has a disability (who does not). This is especially true for those disabilities this new system seems designed for, those with severe developmental/neurological disabilities. Disney should absolutely be giving preference to children over adults.
Insiders have said that is not the motivation and I absolutely believe it. The das abuse/overuse/poweruse was degrading the park experience for EVERYONE else, including those who legitimately need DAS.
Those that still qualify do not outgrow their challenges
I still don't understand the term over use as you can't do more as it's still waiting the same amount of time only elsewhere
No standby guests are able to wait in other lines while waiting on a DAS return time (effectively doubling what you can ride). No other guests can stand in line while eating lunch, watching the parade, or doing any other park activities. DAS users are able to take up virtual space in "line" all day from open until close if they use the system to its max. They may well have had higher daily ride numbers than those with G+.
Please explain it to me like I'm stupid because I still don't get it
Disney encourages you to spend money when using DAS. The only thing we ever did with DAS while waiting was walk, eat or shop if the shop was mostly empty to avoid issues. I don't see how those who still qualify could do much more if even that much
A lot of them learn coping mechanisms as they get older. Many in the neurodivergent group grow up to hold down full time jobs and have families, being able to live a mostly “normal” life with learned coping mechanisms, therapy, brain development, maturity, etc.
Those who still qualify? Maybe they can't do much more. But weren't you talking about the definition of overuse in the past that led to these changes? Go in DAS FB groups and look at posts from before April.. it was all about sharing touring plans, how to maximize rides with DAS, etc
Level one maybe but not so much level 2 or 3
