New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[Splash4eva]

The key is, what would happen if solo traveler or traveling with a child who isn't disabled had to leave the line? If I stand in line for 30 minutes of a 45 minute wait, and my toddler has to use the restroom, and we leave the line and get a return time for length of standby (45 minutes), then there is no issue with someone with a disability having to do the same thing.

It would be unfair for you as well… im not sure anyone has even hinted that anyone should have to reset the clock on waiting again… disabled or not.

 

[peter11435]

It would be unfair for you as well… im not sure anyone has even hinted that anyone should have to reset the clock on waiting again… disabled or not.

But that’s exactly what happens.

People have always had to leave lines for any number of reasons and were never guaranteed credit for time waited.

 

[larryz]

OK, I'll play - what did I change, and how did this alleged change misrepresent what you said?

Yeah, I didn't see it either.

At some point, it's better to just walk away from contention -- others will run the rabbit hole and come to the conclusions warranted.

 

[ConfettiCupcake]

It would be unfair for you as well… im not sure anyone has even hinted that anyone should have to reset the clock on waiting again… disabled or not.

What is the alternative though? Technology is the obvious answer but that would require an entirely new set up to solve an outlier event that as far as we can tell Disney does not see as problematic. You could take people exiting at their word but that would leave it ripe for abuse when there’s no requirement to leave a party member behind in line.

While sometimes a CM will assign a time that’s standby length, we also have an anecdote of someone being allowed immediate entry into LL who was alone and had to exit standby.

 

[Ayla]

yes

The poster quoted word for word your last statement in that post.

 

[Splash4eva]

But that’s exactly what happens.

People have always had to leave lines for any number of reasons and were never guaranteed credit for time waited.

Okay and again ill still stick to my statement that if thats the case it should be changed especially now that they are denying previous legit das users access to the system and this is disneys “accommodation”

 

[Splash4eva]

What is the alternative though? Technology is the obvious answer but that would require an entirely new set up to solve an outlier event that as far as we can tell Disney does not see as problematic. You could take people exiting at their word but that would leave it ripe for abuse when there’s no requirement to leave a party member behind in line.

While sometimes a CM will assign a time that’s standby length, we also have an anecdote of someone being allowed immediate entry into LL who was alone and had to exit standby.

Im no IT expert and you kinda already answered the question. How hard would it be to install touch points on both sides so people can tap into a line once entering it & yes i totally understand all queue's would not be set up properly but its something they can do. Maybe even from the MDE from a gps location the same way they do with dining check in.

 

[peter11435]

Im no IT expert and you kinda already answered the question. How hard would it be to install touch points on both sides so people can tap into a line once entering it & yes i totally understand all queue's would not be set up properly but its something they can do. Maybe even from the MDE from a gps location the same way they do with dining check in.

It wouldn’t be hard… it would be very expensive. Although I’m not really sure what it would accomplish.

 

[peter11435]

Okay and again ill still stick to my statement that if thats the case it should be changed especially now that they are denying previous legit das users access to the system and this is disneys “accommodation”

Changed for everyone or just those who were denied das?

And again, your scenario applies to a very small demographic as the vast majority of parties have someone who can remain in line. For those instances where that is not the case, cast members will likely accommodate the best way they can.

 

[Splash4eva]

Changed for everyone or just those who were denied das?

And again, your scenario applies to a very small demographic as the vast majority of parties have someone who can remain in line. For those instances where that is not the case, cast members will likely accommodate the best way they can.

For everyone and that is also somewhat my point. This group my guess is such a small number where even if someone “lied” about how long they were in line for. Would it really kill Disney/CM to just say okay we trust you if you said you have been in line for X amount of minutes already. Like we are splitting hairs here.

 

[peter11435]

For everyone and that is also somewhat my point. This group my guess is such a small number where even if someone “lied” about how long they were in line for. Would it really kill Disney/CM to just say okay we trust you if you said you have been in line for X amount of minutes already. Like we are splitting hairs here.

Exactly! Thats why I said that cast members will likely accommodate. But that doesn’t mean it is guaranteed nor should it be.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

While sometimes a CM will assign a time that’s standby length, we also have an anecdote of someone being allowed immediate entry into LL who was alone and had to exit standby.

I’m sure it depends on the time - if someone gets in a 50 minute or less line, leaves the line, goes to use the restroom, and then comes back… I mean that’s pretty close to 50 minutes and the CM can just let them on.

If it’s 2 hours or more then the CM might give out a return time.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I think that you all are UNDER estimating how many will figure it out pretty quickly how to wait outside of the line. As others have said, the fakers have no moral compass. They will say that one parent is solo with a child or children so that they don't have to worry about meeting back up with the other parent. They will just return at the same time and pretend like they don't know each other. There will ALWAYS be people that scam the system. All this does is just make it harder for those with legitimate issues.

And Disney has ways of knowing who is in your travel party, so while some people may figure out ways around that it won't be the norm.

 

[NotTheOne]

It would be unfair for you as well… im not sure anyone has even hinted that anyone should have to reset the clock on waiting again… disabled or not.

Oh, I get what you're saying - I personally think restarting the standby wait time isn't a good way to handle it, although I don't know what the alternative would be. My point was simply that if that's how it works for everyone, then it certainly isn't discriminatory towards those who are disabled.

 

[NotTheOne]

Okay and again ill still stick to my statement that if thats the case it should be changed especially now that they are denying previous legit das users access to the system and this is disneys “accommodation”

I agree that they should look for a way to change it, via technology perhaps, but not simply because previous DAS users may now be impacted.

 

[Splash4eva]

Oh, I get what you're saying - I personally think restarting the standby wait time isn't a good way to handle it, although I don't know what the alternative would be. My point was simply that if that's how it works for everyone, then it certainly isn't discriminatory towards those who are disabled.

Listen as you can tell im not one that like lawsuits & crying discrimination im just stating common sense facts & good business practices here etc… we are talking Disney here & yes their name may have lost some luster but come on. Telling someone basically here you go your time meant nothing is a terrible look

 

[NotTheOne]

Listen as you can tell im not one that like lawsuits & crying discrimination im just stating common sense facts & good business practices here etc… we are talking Disney here & yes their name may have lost some luster but come on. Telling someone basically here you go your time meant nothing is a terrible look

Yeah, I don't disagree, it's a bad look.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Im no IT expert and you kinda already answered the question. How hard would it be to install touch points on both sides so people can tap into a line once entering it & yes i totally understand all queue's would not be set up properly but its something they can do. Maybe even from the MDE from a gps location the same way they do with dining check in.

Now you're expecting Disney to make significant operating changes to accommodate you. The capital costs associated with installing additional tapstiles at every attraction plus staffing those tapstiles wouldn't be insignificant.

 

[Touchdown]

Another quiet Sunday in the parks

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Another quiet Sunday in the parks

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Must be all those DAS users going to church!