Agree, it's a tough nut to crack.
Something they could do though, and they already used this technology for dining, is to not let a DAS holder make their next reservation until they're in the vicinity of the ride.
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New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024
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Something they could do though, and they already used this technology for dining, is to not let a DAS holder make their next reservation until they're in the vicinity of the ride.
Jrb1979
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I agree it's not a good look but the honor system wouldn't work either look to instantly get in the LL queue. I don't see them spending the money to have tap ins for standby.
peter11435
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Yep. Easily millions of dollars to install at every attraction and I don’t see how it would actually solve the problem.
The weather must have something to do with it...
Club Cooloholic
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Discomfort is ok when it's interesting, got it. For reference, what people are comfortable in a line?
lazyboy97o
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People with disabilities have agency. They are people and allowed to make decisions for themselves. You do not get to decide for them. They are allowed to do things that they find difficult or painful even if you do not approve or find it hypocritical.
Club Cooloholic
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Again, I think the word "disabled" has been bastardized, and this why the changes we see have been made.
Agree 100%. But that also means that there will be times when, depending on the difficulty of the position they've chosen to put themselves into, the provided reasonable accommodation may not be able to meet their needs in a way they would consider best or easier or the most desirable.
MickeyLuv'r
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But took it out of context. I was clearly talking about DAS. I probably should have added the word such to the last sentence, but since I said:
DAS not only helps the disabled DAS holder, but also helps Disney's image as an inclusive company. Remember, this is a thread about children and adults with severe disabilities that impair their ability to wait in a queue.
A WDW without any [such] accommodation [as DAS] for children with autism and other severe medical conditions is not a place I'd visit.
The topic sentence was clearly the first sentence: Seems a bit premature to say Disney plans to discontinue DAS.
We all know WDW offers and array of accommodations like video captioning, braille guidebooks, and wheelchair ramps. I was very specifically talking about DAS, and only DAS.
Speculating about the possible elimination of DAS is not constructive when discussing WDW's recent policy changes.
Angel Ariel
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Or there's just been increases in the disability community - some from the pandemic, a lot from better diagnostic tools meaning that people are diagnosed earlier (or at all). Some also from more willingness of people to explore getting diagnosed as society does become more accessible and inclusive and there's less of a negative stigma about being disabled.
Now does that mean all disabled people qualify for DaS. - no. No debate on that. But it doesn't mean that the definition of disabled has been watered down either.
Splash4eva
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Me? No all the people that would be able to use this feature
flynnibus
Premium Member
Technology, yes
But the processes they are going with defeat their chances to use that technology.
No point in talking about the technology if it’s not even feasible in their current implementations.
Chip Chipperson
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I said "you" because you're the one suggesting it, not because your suggestion would only be applied to you. Regardless, it would be a big expense and require increased staffing at all 4 parks. That's why it's not likely to happen.
RSoxNo1
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We're headed to California next month with my autistic brother and essentially were able to receive the same accommodation for both Universal and Disneyland. We called before Disneyland changed over to their new system and were able to secure disability passes for my brother + 5 additional guests.
From an ease of use standpoint, acquiring the Universal pass was substantially easier to acquire than Disney. The video call requires a time commitment while Universal allows you to simply submit data (and a doctor's note). I much prefer the Universal approach.
Splash4eva
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I know. God forbid Disney spends money on making a guest experience better without getting anything back directly in return. Dare i say anything along those lines. Heresy!!!
With the small number of guests that would actually get a better guest experience out of this, yeah, not worth the effort, IMO.I know. God forbid Disney spends money on making a guest experience better without getting anything back directly in return. Dare i say anything along those lines. Heresy!!!
Also, be careful what you ask for (you in the general sense)...if Disney were to have this in place, they could easily (and I would argue should) utilize it to keep DAS holders from going into a standby queue while holding a return time.
Splash4eva
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Disney already has made it clear thats riding while waiting is perfectly fine even with these latest changes and are people really that bent out of shape over LEGIT DAS holders say walking or waiting 10 minutes to see Philharmagic while their 7 Ds time is up or catching CoP while waiting to ride Space… like is this having any impact on anyones trip… if anyone is even remotely thinking about this come on now. Enjoy your trip please.
Chip Chipperson
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Yes, it is fine under the current system (and prior version, too). They currently have no way to police it, so it has to be okay even if they would like to eliminate it. But the arguments are all over the place. On one hand it's argued that riding B while waiting for A is fine and within the rules. On the other, it is claimed to be an infrequent thing. Yet when the subject of eliminating that privilege comes up, people get defensive. If it is used so infrequently as some would like to claim, why care about it being taken away? Also, it is one of the big things that makes lying to get DAS so appealing. It makes for a free and superior product compared to G+. If Disney is going to go through the trouble and expense of doubling the number of tapstiles at every attraction to accommodate what you deem "fair" for AQR, you can bet they're going to get their money's worth and eventually eliminate the ability to ride something else while waiting for a DAS return time.
MickeyLuv'r
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Direct from WDW's webpage:
Guests utilizing DAS can enjoy many other experiences throughout Walt Disney World Resort during a DAS virtual wait, such as other rides, shows, concerts, parades and Character Greetings. They can also take a rest in a break area, get something to eat or go shopping.
Why do people posting here keep forgetting this information?
Guests utilizing DAS can enjoy many other experiences throughout Walt Disney World Resort during a DAS virtual wait, such as other rides, shows, concerts, parades and Character Greetings. They can also take a rest in a break area, get something to eat or go shopping.
Why do people posting here keep forgetting this information?
Splash4eva
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Again thats fine and your opinion and i respect that its part of what makes these convos interesting and for most part non argumentative. Would i be up in arms over it ? Absolutely not. I use Genie+ with my DAS. All im saying is this from someone who has had DAS. If Disney chose to remove walk ons basically imo its not moving any needle at all. Ive never stated it is used rarely i would definitely try and find a walk on in between my das/genie+ attractions. I just dont see how removing that “advantage” makes a difference one way or the other. As a Non DAS user are you gonna be happy about someone with a disability losing that right? Sleep better at night? Feel you had a better experience? Say okay now we are “equal” because someone saved maybe 10-15 minutes 3 times a day?!? I dont know. Maybe its me but more power to them