New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[DoubleSwitchback]

It seems like there are a number of people complaining “the fakers will abuse AQR” and also the same people complaining “AQR isn’t as much better than pure standby for me as DAS is.”

Your whole post is beautifully put. There is a lot of double talk around criticism of the changes, for sure.

 

[bwr827]

Any actual reports of how the new system is working?

 

[lentesta]

Sorry but, again, according to Disney DAS usage has "more than tripled" in the last 3 years alone. Prior to that the number they last confirmed was 3% of guests using GAC. It's impossible for it to be 8%.

Maybe @lentesta can clarify where he got the current 8% number, because from the ops people I know it's nearly double that.

I multiplied 3% by 3 to get 9%. Then hedged a bit. It’s a guess.

 

[NotTheOne]

So if 8% of guests need DAS (and can each bring 3 people with them), that means up to 32% of guests are using it. That sounds like "a high number all things considered" to me! Although it would help explain why the standby-to-ILL ratio is so horrifically high, and so dramatically detrmimental to standby guests...

8% needed the DAS or 8% were getting the DAS? Because those definitely aren't the same things.

 

[NotTheOne]

Seems a bit premature to decide Disney plans to discontinue DAS.

You've expressed this idea a few times in this thread, and it isn't helpful.

DAS not only helps the disabled DAS holder, but also helps Disney's image as an inclusive company, an image they are eager to have.

Remember this is a thread about children and adults with severe disabilities that impair their ability to wait in a queue.

A WDW without any accommodation for children with autism and other severe medical conditions is not a place I'd visit.

I'm not in favor of ending DAS, but ending DAS would not be the same thing as "a WDW without any accommodation for children with autism and other severe medical conditions"

 

[Kingoglow]

So how is a solo traveler or someone traveling with a minor being accommodated if they need to leave the line? Please answer that

Well, for most travelers we just get back in line, ride something else or buy Genie+. So whatever accommodation Disney provides, could reasonably be similar to those options.

 

[Weather_Lady]

8% needed the DAS or 8% were getting the DAS? Because those definitely aren't the same things.

I was quoting someone else: they said "needed." But yes, they are certainly not the same thing.

 

[networkpro]

8% needed the DAS or 8% were getting the DAS? Because those definitely aren't the same things.

We cant quibble about intent, just actual usage as that is what is impactful.

 

[NotTheOne]

We cant quibble about intent, just actual usage as that is what is impactful.

Agree, my point was that a poster was positing that 8% of the guest population needing DAS seemed about right; I'm assuming that's because more than 8% of the population can claim a disability of some sort. But not all disabled people need a DAS, including many who got one before.

 

[Jrb1979]

But the people that are solo or a parent with child/children, will not be given a return time to come back. So people will be free to go do whatever they want. This is basically DAS with you waiting in the standby line for 10 minutes first. You don't think that people are absolutely going to go that route? It is not about saving time, it is about being able to go do whatever you want because you scored that return time. Even those that are not solo will lie and say that they are to be able to bypass the standby queue.

They will be given a return time to come back. It will be equal to standby. There will absolutely be people that do that to avoid waiting in line. I'm sure Disney knows that will happen. Those people going into another standby line isn't a problem. The problem has always been LL usage.

 

[NotTheOne]

I didn't assume anything. That is what you said, that people with medical issues should be happy with having to wait longer for a ride than everyone else does, just because they have to leave the line for their medical issues.
You might be fine with "starting an hour wait over again", but that doesn't mean that everyone should be happy about it. Many don't go a full day as it is and to have the rides that they do go on take twice as long, is not acceptable.

The key is, what would happen if solo traveler or traveling with a child who isn't disabled had to leave the line? If I stand in line for 30 minutes of a 45 minute wait, and my toddler has to use the restroom, and we leave the line and get a return time for length of standby (45 minutes), then there is no issue with someone with a disability having to do the same thing.

 

[NotTheOne]

People don't out grow autism

No one said or implied that they do.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

I'm not in favor of ending DAS, but ending DAS would not be the same thing as "a WDW without any accommodation for children with autism and other severe medical conditions"

Stop misrepresenting my posts.

 

[NotTheOne]

Stop misrepresenting my posts.

Not sure how quoting part of your post is misrepresenting your post...

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

Not sure your post is your post...

that's how.

 

[Vacationeer]

Some of the expectations posted here are exteme and I’m not sure which are meant legally, as business goodwill, or to take feasibility into account.

 

[NotTheOne]

that's how.

Hmm, did I change the words that that you posted as you just did?

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

Hmm, did I change the words that that you posted as you just did?

yes

 

[Figgy1]

 

[NotTheOne]

yes

yes

OK, I'll play - what did I change, and how did this alleged change misrepresent what you said?