New bits of info from Winter 2010 issue of Attractions Magazine

EPCOT Explorer

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That is from a dream sequence in the movie it appears to me. It's not the actual setting of the story Here is baltic area architecture....

http://www.ism.lt/uploads/images/dir44/dir2/3_1.php

http://wnights.com/img/baltic_states/big/old_town_of_tallinn.jpg

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1890/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1890-53855.jpg

Note the lack of palm trees. Case closed!

Again the palm trees appear during a dream. The others are very poorly defined or are used as a foreshadowing element. We really need to hear from someone who worked on the film.

Are you for real?! Those are screenshots from The Little Mermaid when Eric takes Ariel out to see his Kingdom. No Dream sequence, as tirian said.

Have you ever seen the movie?
 

jt04

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Are you for real?! Those are screenshots from The Little Mermaid when Eric takes Ariel out to see his Kingdom. No Dream sequence, as tirian said.

Have you ever seen the movie?

Yeah over 20 years ago :lol:

It appears in the screen captures that she is sleeping both before and after the sequence in question. Strange that. I guess I need to watch the movie again. :lookaroun

Anyway, I still think they should base the land in a european setting. Just makes sense not to see a tropical setting or palm trees rising up behind the castle walls or a european chateau. :rolleyes:
 

EPCOT Explorer

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Yeah over 20 years ago :lol:

It appears in the screen captures that she is sleeping both before and after the sequence in question. Strange that. I guess I need to watch the movie again. :lookaroun

Anyway, I still think they should base the land in a european setting. Just makes sense not to see a tropical setting or palm trees rising up behind the castle walls or a european chateau. :rolleyes:

:zipit:Watch it again, please....There's no sequence. She goes with Eric to tour his kingdom.

And....Please tell me you visited WDW within the last 20 years, too.


The land, I believe, will be European in stlye.. That does not discount the fact that there is sea shore...with palm trees.
 

jt04

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:zipit:Watch it again, please....There's no sequence. She goes with Eric to tour his kingdom.

And....Please tell me you visited WDW within the last 20 years, too.


The land, I believe, will be European in stlye.. That does not discount the fact that there is sea shore...with palm trees.

I have been at least 50 times since 2000. Top that.

And if I sit through that movie again and find it is in fact a dream sequence, I'm goint to be ------ ---! :lol:

It's just weird she is in the same bed before and after the sequence in the screen shots. She falls asleep, the sequence happens and then she is seen waking up. But I'm hardly an expert on the movie. Maybe an expert will chime in.
 

EPCOT Explorer

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I have been at least 50 times since 2000. Top that.

And if I sit through that movie again and find it is in fact a dream sequence, I'm goint to be ------ ---! :lol:

It's just weird she is in the same bed before and after the sequence in the screen shots. She falls asleep, the sequence happens and then she is seen waking up. But I'm hardly an expert on the movie. Maybe an expert will chime in.

Well then, good for you. :lol: I've been 10.

It's not, and that's just a coincidence. It's an actual day.
 

EPCOT Explorer

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I bet a bunch of people are fast forwarding their DVD's to see if it is a dream. Funny if everyone was missing it all along. :lol:

It's not...and what is there to indicate that it is? :shrug:

She goes to bed, that's it. That's what someone does at the end of a long day without talking and newly acquired legs.:wave:
 

EPCOT Explorer

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Ariel, a sixteen-year-old mermaid princess, is dissatisfied with life under the sea and curious about the human world. With her best fish friend Flounder, Ariel collects human artifacts and goes to the surface of the ocean to visit Scuttle the seagull, who offers very inaccurate and comical knowledge of human culture. Ignoring the warnings of her father (King Triton) and court musician (Sebastian the crab) that contact between merpeople and humans is forbidden, Ariel still longs to be part of the human world; to this end she has filled a secret grotto with all the human artifacts she has found. ("Part of Your World") While Sebastian, who was assigned to watch over Ariel and be sure she does not visit the surface again tries to convince her that its better to live under the sea than in the human world ("Under the Sea")
One night, Ariel and Flounder travel to the ocean surface to watch a celebration for the birthday of Prince Eric, with whom Ariel falls in love. A sudden storm hits, during which everyone manages to escape in a lifeboat except for Eric who goes and rescues his dog Max, who was still trapped on the ship. He saves Max but almost drowns but is saved by Ariel, who drags him to the beach. She sings to him, but when he stirs awake he sees a vision. She dives underwater when Max comes to Eric. Eric has a vague impression that he was rescued by a girl with a beautiful voice; he vows to find her, and Ariel vows to find a way to join Eric. ("Part of Your World (reprise)")
Triton and his daughters notice a change in Ariel, who is openly lovesick. Triton questions Sebastian about Ariel's behavior, during which Sebastian accidentally reveals the incident with Eric. Triton furiously confronts Ariel in her grotto, using his trident to destroy her collection of human treasures. After Triton leaves, a pair of eels, Flotsam and Jetsam, convince a crying Ariel that she must visit Ursula the sea witch, who can supposedly make all her dreams come true.
Ursula makes a deal with Ariel to transform her into a human for three days ("Poor, Unfortunate Souls"). Within these three days, Ariel must receive the "kiss of true love" from Eric; otherwise, she will transform back into a mermaid on the third day and belong to Ursula. As payment for legs, Ariel has to give up her voice, which Ursula magically traps in a shell she wears as a locket. Ariel's tail is transformed into legs and Sebastian and Flounder drag her to the surface.
Eric and Max find Ariel on the beach. He initially suspects that she is the one who saved his life, but when he learns that she cannot speak, he discards that notion—to the frustration of both Ariel and Max (who knows the truth). He helps her to the palace, where the servants think she is as a survivor of a shipwreck. Ariel spends time with Eric, and at the end of the second day, they almost kiss ("Kiss the Girl") but are thwarted by Flotsam and Jetsam. Angered at their narrow escape, Ursula takes the disguise of a beautiful young woman named "Vanessa" and appears onshore singing with Ariel's voice. Eric recognizes the song, and in her disguise, Vanessa/Ursula casts a hypnotic spell of enchantment on Eric to make him forget about Ariel.
The next day, Ariel finds out that Eric will be married to the disguised Ursula on a ship. She cries and is left behind when the wedding barge departs. Scuttle discovers that Vanessa is Ursula in disguise, and informs Ariel. Ariel and Flounder chase the wedding barge, Sebastian informs Triton and Scuttle is assigned to literally "stall the wedding." With the help of various animals, the nautilus shell around Ursula's neck is broken, restoring Ariel's voice back to Ariel and breaking Ursula's enchantment over Eric. Realizing that Ariel was the girl who saved his life, Eric rushes to kiss her, but the sun sets and Ariel transforms back into a mermaid. Ursula reverts to her true form and she kidnaps Ariel.
Triton appears and confronts Ursula, but cannot destroy Ursula's contract with Ariel. Triton chooses to sacrifice himself for his daughter, and is transformed into a polyp. Ursula takes Triton's crown and trident, which was her plan from the beginning. Ursula uses her new power to gloat, forming a whirlpool that disturbs several shipwrecks, one of which Eric commandeers. Just as Ursula is set to use the trident to destroy Ariel, Eric turns the wheel hard to port, in effect ramming the ship's splintered bowsprit through Ursula's abdomen.
With Ursula gone, her power breaks and the polyps in Ursula's garden (including Triton) turn back into the old merpeople. Later, after seeing that Ariel really loves Eric and that Eric also saved him in the process, Triton willingly changes her from a mermaid into a human using his trident. She runs into Eric's arms, and the two finally kiss. Ariel marries Eric in a wedding where both humans and merpeople attend.

No dreaming. She's not Sleeping Beauty, after all. :)
 

jt04

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It's not...and what is there to indicate that it is? :shrug:

She goes to bed, that's it. That's what someone does at the end of a long day without talking and newly acquired legs.:wave:

But she is not seen getting out of the bed until after the sequence. And the begining shows weird effects and color schemes as if she is dreaming. I'm convinced it is a dream sequence!

I think we have officially run out of Disney stuff to talk about now. It's all come to this!

:lol:
 

EPCOT Explorer

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But she is not seen getting out of the bed until after the sequence. And the begining shows weird effects and color schemes as if she is dreaming. I'm convinced it is a dream sequence!

I think we have officially run out of Disney stuff to talk about now. It's all come to this!

:lol:
If you want to think that, be my guest. (put our service to the test.):zipit::lol:


It's too damn late. Gnight! :lol:
 

_Scar

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But she is not seen getting out of the bed until after the sequence. And the begining shows weird effects and color schemes as if she is dreaming. I'm convinced it is a dream sequence!

I think we have officially run out of Disney stuff to talk about now. It's all come to this!

:lol:


There are no dream sequences. Wanna know why? Vanessa appears before she wakes up and is there after.

It all transitions well from the dinner scene. I don't know where you'd think this whole dream sequence would even start.
 

DisneyParksFan1

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Woah, this thread has gone pretty far!

Anyway, I think we can trust this report, it's from the Winter 2010 issue of Orlando Attractions Magazine. Ricky Brigante, the owner of it all, and the Inside the Magic Podcast, and also devout Disney fan attended the D23 Expo. I'm pretty sure this info is credible. I mean it's Ricky! Lol. But if not, no flaming please. :) I tend to believe this. Now the whole Pooh thing, John Lassetter himself said that they will enhance the theming around the Pooh area, I have personally not heard anything official about the demolition or relocation. One thing that is confirmed is enhancement and that is Hundred Acre Wood theming and supposedly a new queue and facade. About the whole Mermaid thing, I think it's too early to be freaking out about agriculture and such, at least let's wait till the first piece of dirt is moved for construction. And plus palms, or no palms, the place will be epically awesome.
 

tirian

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I have been at least 50 times since 2000. Top that.

And if I sit through that movie again and find it is in fact a dream sequence, I'm goint to be ------ ---! :lol:

It's just weird she is in the same bed before and after the sequence in the screen shots. She falls asleep, the sequence happens and then she is seen waking up. But I'm hardly an expert on the movie. Maybe an expert will chime in.

She spends three days in Eric's kingdom; her "bedroom scenes" :)ROFLOL:) merely show that three days have passed.

Why does it matter whether or not there are a few palm trees in TLM area? 20K had them for years, right across from Toad.
 

tirian

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Woah, this thread has gone pretty far!

Anyway, I think we can trust this report, it's from the Winter 2010 issue of Orlando Attractions Magazine. Ricky Brigante, the owner of it all, and the Inside the Magic Podcast, and also devout Disney fan attended the D23 Expo. I'm pretty sure this info is credible. I mean it's Ricky! Lol. But if not, no flaming please. :) I tend to believe this. Now the whole Pooh thing, John Lassetter himself said that they will enhance the theming around the Pooh area, I have personally not heard anything official about the demolition or relocation. One thing that is confirmed is enhancement and that is Hundred Acre Wood theming and supposedly a new queue and facade. About the whole Mermaid thing, I think it's too early to be freaking out about agriculture and such, at least let's wait till the first piece of dirt is moved for construction. And plus palms, or no palms, the place will be epically awesome.

Pooh gets a new façade; Snow's will be enhanced (budget permitting); Teacups may get a new roof. The current refurb in FL will include some of the enhanced theming when the tarps are removed, but the changes will be relatively subtle.
 

EPCOT Explorer

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Woah, this thread has gone pretty far!

Anyway, I think we can trust this report, it's from the Winter 2010 issue of Orlando Attractions Magazine. Ricky Brigante, the owner of it all, and the Inside the Magic Podcast, and also devout Disney fan attended the D23 Expo. I'm pretty sure this info is credible. I mean it's Ricky! Lol. But if not, no flaming please. :) I tend to believe this. Now the whole Pooh thing, John Lassetter himself said that they will enhance the theming around the Pooh area, I have personally not heard anything official about the demolition or relocation. One thing that is confirmed is enhancement and that is Hundred Acre Wood theming and supposedly a new queue and facade. About the whole Mermaid thing, I think it's too early to be freaking out about agriculture and such, at least let's wait till the first piece of dirt is moved for construction. And plus palms, or no palms, the place will be epically awesome.
As much as these guys "know" I rarely trust bloggers, and even webmasters. No offense, of course.

Steve is the exception....:lol:

She spends three days in Eric's kingdom; her "bedroom scenes" :)ROFLOL:) merely show that three days have passed.

Why does it matter whether or not there are a few palm trees in TLM area? 20K had them for years, right across from Toad.
Heh!

And yeah, it's won't be a big deal with the trees. It's the seashore. Supposed to have Palms. At least it will be better than the scrub that's there now.

Pooh gets a new façade; Snow's will be enhanced (budget permitting); Teacups may get a new roof. The current refurb in FL will include some of the enhanced theming when the tarps are removed, but the changes will be relatively subtle.

PLEASE.:lookaroun
 

krankenstein

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Btw, they do have date trees (in the same family as palm trees) in the Mediterranean region of southern Europe.


Just saying.... :lookaroun
 

Disneyson 1

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(ahem) The reason she stays in the same bed is because she's in Eric's guest bedroom; as afore mentioned, to show that 2 days pass. The weird trippyness may just be that Vanessa (i.e. Ursula) has an enchanting voice (Ariel's stolen voice) that Eric hears. This may be taken as a dream sequence as the lighting and the sounds are other-worldly when Ursula (Vanessa) comes out

Anyways, I love these rumors! And can't wait for Jaq and Gus-Gus in Living Character AA form...maybe...
 

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