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Mulan coming to Disney+

Wendy Pleakley

Wendy Pleakley

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danlb_2000 said:
I have to admit that vote distribution seems strange.
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If I was going to try and skew the ratings of a movie, I'd be less obvious about it. Give it a lot of 6 or 7 star ratings for example.

A 1-star rating means the movie is just off the charts bad, like without any redeeming qualities. Very few movies warrant such a legitimate rating. Not to mention these "reviews" would have come from people paying $30 to watch it night one, a demographic that is going to be sympathetic to a Disney movie to some degree.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Wendy Pleakley said:
Do you honestly think it's likely that the majority of viewers didn't just think it was bad, but thought it was 1-star bad?
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I wasn't being clear. My point of the graphic was to show how outrageous it was to garner all those one-stars. I forgot to use the sarcasm font!
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Wendy Pleakley said:
If I was going to try and skew the ratings of a movie, I'd be less obvious about it. Give it a lot of 6 or 7 star ratings for example.

A 1-star rating means the movie is just off the charts bad, like without any redeeming qualities. Very few movies warrant such a legitimate rating. Not to mention these "reviews" would have come from people paying $30 to watch it night one, a demographic that is going to be sympathetic to a Disney movie to some degree.
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LSLS

LSLS

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Honestly i really want to see it, but I refuse to pay $30 for it. We did $20 for trolls, but that was my max I let the family go to. No way we are dropping that much to watch at home, especially with the sketchy disney plus audio. It looks good, but we will be waiting.
 
NateD1226

NateD1226

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Wow. This movie surprised me a lot. It’s actually pretty good. Certain points of the movie made me question that Disney actually made this movie as it wasn’t bad like their other remakes. I liked how it was very mature with very little comedic aspects. The thing that bothered me though was the editing. My god the editing was awful. Anyway, here are some of my thoughts with spoilers.

The final battle scene with Mulan and Bori Kahn was very anti-climatic which kinda sucked. The bad editing didn’t help either

I really liked how the bond with Mulan and Xian Lang wasn’t shoved into the movie. It wasn’t subtle but it wasn’t as forced as the female empowerment scene in Infinity War

Another I really liked was that how Mulan was very timid with Chen Honghui’s affection at the end of the movie. It really helped show Mulan’s personality well.

Overall, it was a pretty good movie. I hope my mini essay wasn’t too boring haha
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
In preparation for watching the live action, we re-watched the animated version a few weeks ago. And boy, can I understand why China didn't like the animated version. The stereotypes (even though based on traditional Chinese caricatures) were cringey. Still image caricatures should not be animated in a semi-serious feature. Not to mention the antics of Eddie Murphy and his subplot, and the a tertiary subplot of a cricket.

And for being a musical with some very good songs... it wasn't a true musical in the Broadway sense (neither was Frozen with the absence of music in the last half of the movie). In short, the animated feature had issues. And God bless Harvey Fierstein, but he can't sing... literally unable to. Don't know why he still gets singing roles. Even Dame Julie Andrews knew to stop when she wasn't able to sing anymore.

The live version fixes a lot of those issues (it adds in a few very minor ones that can be overlooked in comparison). It certainly was made to honor the Chinese traditions while making a case for the subversion of a repressive tradition. It certainly didn't make ancestral spirits into a bunch of buffoons like the animated version. <shakes head>

I give it 8/10. [The animated version... 5/10]
 
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BasiltheBatLord

BasiltheBatLord

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Feels like this is getting quite a bit of hate online. I mostly agree with common complaints about it:

- The whole "chi" thing was probably the worst aspect of the film and it ironically undercut the message of the original film. Mulan is now born as a martial arts god who can do anything. Felt similar to the Mary Sue problem Rey had in the Star Wars sequel trilogy.
- The Witch character felt unnecessary.
- The pacing felt off, especially the first act. The original film does a good job showcasing the build up inside Mulan that persuades her to act and take her father's place. It felt like they just fast-forwarded through that here and jumped straight to her leaving with no real explanation or build up.
- Some of the acting was flat out bad, felt like a Lifetime movie at points.
- I can understand the argument for leaving out the songs, but in the end I think it hurt the film more than helped. Did I miss it or was "I'll Make a Man Out of You", one of the original's most famous songs, nowhere in the film at all?
- I've noticed a lot of people criticizing the film for leaving out Mushu but I thought that was a good decision.

Visually it looked amazing though. The visuals alone made me really want to like it cause "Mulan as a realistic period film" is a really appealing premise.
 
mdcpr

mdcpr

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danlb_2000 said:
I have two family members who aren't Disney fans who subscribed just for Hamilton.
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I was one of those who just subscribed for Hamilton, then I saw all the Avengers movies, then The Mandalorian...and now waiting for Season 2. But paying $30 for Mulan? I'm not sure.
 
Tinkwings

Tinkwings

Pfizered Fairy
Premium Member
In the Parks
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I loved it! I don't have a super large TV or fancy sound system but came across beautifully.....costumes, acting, beautiful landscapes and good story. :happy: I could watch again......Bravo!;)
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

Well-Known Member
I really cannot imagine all of those low ratings came from people who paid for it. Rather, they likely came from people who refused to pay for it, severely killing its IMDB score.
 
InnKpr

InnKpr

Well-Known Member
Jedijax719 said:
I really cannot imagine all of those low ratings came from people who paid for it. Rather, they likely came from people who refused to pay for it, severely killing its IMDB score.
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That, or the political boycott and bias over comments made by the lead actress last year. A lot of people still boiled over that, and taking their frustrations out on the entire film.

Though many of the YouTube, unbiased critics who just say it as it is (Doug Walker, Chris Stuckmann, Angry Joe, Jeremy Jahns to name a few) seem pretty disappointed with this movie, so that says something too.
 
Disney Analyst

Disney Analyst

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Completely anecdotal, but there was this random “Newsbeat” Facebook post that showed up on my social feeds, them sharing a BBC article essentially about the Mulan backlash in support of Hong Kong etc.

But the surprising thing to me, and I only scrolled the comments for a bit (over 300), everyone in the comments seemed to have paid to watch the film. And I found that... interesting.
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
BasiltheBatLord said:
Feels like this is getting quite a bit of hate online. I mostly agree with common complaints about it:

- The whole "chi" thing was probably the worst aspect of the film and it ironically undercut the message of the original film. Mulan is now born as a martial arts god who can do anything. Felt similar to the Mary Sue problem Rey had in the Star Wars sequel trilogy.
- The Witch character felt unnecessary.
- The pacing felt off, especially the first act. The original film does a good job showcasing the build up inside Mulan that persuades her to act and take her father's place. It felt like they just fast-forwarded through that here and jumped straight to her leaving with no real explanation or build up.
- Some of the acting was flat out bad, felt like a Lifetime movie at points.
- I can understand the argument for leaving out the songs, but in the end I think it hurt the film more than helped. Did I miss it or was "I'll Make a Man Out of You", one of the original's most famous songs, nowhere in the film at all?
- I've noticed a lot of people criticizing the film for leaving out Mushu but I thought that was a good decision.

Visually it looked amazing though. The visuals alone made me really want to like it cause "Mulan as a realistic period film" is a really appealing premise.
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I think the trouble with Mushu in the original film is that Disney wanted Eddie Murphy to be Robin Williams, and that's not his schtick. I read that the film wasn't that popular in China in part because of the portrayal of the dragon. The Chinese see dragons as honorable creatures intent on saving face, not as yappy tricksters. IMO, this live-action version of Mulan should have kept Mushu, but given him a different vibe - perhaps as an anxious counselor, with the voice of Jackie Chan...
 
Archie123

Archie123

Well-Known Member
Save your money and wait to it's free. It was a great looking move that tonally was very flat and monotone. Another live action remake disappointment.
 

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