News Morocco Pavilion redevelopment

bhg469

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I don’t understand the fascination with turning Morocco into another country when there’s still plots to use elsewhere. Morocco isn’t going anywhere unless a third party steps in and wants to pay for it, even then I’m not sure Disney would want those optics.
The fact that they closed their main restaurant for a lounge and their QS is seemingly seasonal now it begs the question, would anyone care if it did change?
 

correcaminos

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The fact that they closed their main restaurant for a lounge and their QS is seemingly seasonal now it begs the question, would anyone care if it did change?
Spice Road is still open. They use the QS all the time during the festivals that happen literally all year long. Honestly with how little representation we have from non Euro cultures I'm shocked people want to boot it so fast.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Spice Road is still open. They use the QS all the time during the festivals that happen literally all year long. Honestly with how little representation we have from non Euro cultures I'm shocked people want to boot it so fast.

It think it comes from the perception that the pavilion is effectively "dead" (even if it technically still exists) and people think the only way anything will happen is if it gets replaced altogether. Like how other EPCOT pavilions stagnated until they were removed completely.

Both Morocco and Canada deserve better than what Disney has done with them in that last few years, but that's true of the park as a whole.
 

tcool123

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The fact that they closed their main restaurant for a lounge and their QS is seemingly seasonal now it begs the question, would anyone care if it did change?
By that logic we should bulldoze Norway, Japan, France all of which have their signature restaurants empty (Akershus, Monsieur Paul, Takumi Tei.

Spice Road is still open. They use the QS all the time during the festivals that happen literally all year long. Honestly with how little representation we have from non Euro cultures I'm shocked people want to boot it so fast.
I think it’s partially that exact reason people want it gone since it’s so detached from Euooean cultures people gravitate less towards it given their lack of exposure. A shame cause Morocco is one of m, if not is, the most beautiful pavilions in the showcase.
 

James Alucobond

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I don’t understand the fascination with turning Morocco into another country when there’s still plots to use elsewhere. Morocco isn’t going anywhere unless a third party steps in and wants to pay for it, even then I’m not sure Disney would want those optics.
Honestly with how little representation we have from non Euro cultures I'm shocked people want to boot it so fast.
I think “could” and “should” are two different things. I disagree that there’s much difference architecturally between structures in southern Spain like the Alhambra and those showcased in the Morocco pavilion. The same peoples were building those things concurrently. Similarly, there are explicitly French examples of architecture in central and northern Spain, like the Royal Palace at La Granja. And then there are distinctly Spanish architectural inventions too, either as novel amalgamations of other styles or as easily identifiable personal styles, like that of Gaudí.

Should they do it? Nope. Would the optics be awful if they did? Yep. But identifying the architectural connections between the two regions isn’t inherently diminishing or reductive, even if the thought exercise ultimately seems pointless; it’s not something they’ll do or that anyone should want.
 

MisterPenguin

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It think it comes from the perception that the pavilion is effectively "dead" (even if it technically still exists) and people think the only way anything will happen is if it gets replaced altogether. Like how other EPCOT pavilions stagnated until they were removed completely.

Both Morocco and Canada deserve better than what Disney has done with them in that last few years, but that's true of the park as a whole.
Indeed.

And why would Disney bring back a TSR at this time when there's a labor shortage? They would only anger the other companies that run the other pavilions by poaching labor and revenue; all without being able to run Marrakesh at full capacity anyway. Plus this gives them time to find authentic Moroccan enterprises to take over, now that international travel is normalizing.
 

castlecake2.0

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It think it comes from the perception that the pavilion is effectively "dead" (even if it technically still exists) and people think the only way anything will happen is if it gets replaced altogether. Like how other EPCOT pavilions stagnated until they were removed completely.

Both Morocco and Canada deserve better than what Disney has done with them in that last few years, but that's true of the park as a whole.
Canada is going to need something done soon, the Le Cellier/ L’hotel du Canada building won’t last much longer without a major refurb.
 

bhg469

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Canada is going to need something done soon, the Le Cellier/ L’hotel du Canada building won’t last much longer without a major refurb.
We went into the "Appleseed orchard" last night and there was a definite smell in that place.. I had covid a few weeks ago and Im still waiting for my sense of smell to return and even I noticed it.
 

correcaminos

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It think it comes from the perception that the pavilion is effectively "dead" (even if it technically still exists) and people think the only way anything will happen is if it gets replaced altogether. Like how other EPCOT pavilions stagnated until they were removed completely.

Both Morocco and Canada deserve better than what Disney has done with them in that last few years, but that's true of the park as a whole.
Still baffling to me. We don't even have the cultural reps back yet. A few countries are barren in similar ways, and yet no one talks about converting them.

Pavilions being changed/replaced is a whole different ballgame. Plus honestly these suggested changes are borderline offensive.
 

castlecake2.0

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Is it me or is most of World Showcase left to rot unless it has a ride or like Japan a really unique gift shop?
Everyone’s just too scared to be the one to approve the budget and/or lose out on the income of shutting down a revenue center. Le Cellier hasn’t had a proper refurb since 1997. They just keep trying to patch it up. The hotel/former merchandise location keeps getting passed around to different lines of business that don’t want to/have the funds to do anything with it. All that adds up to a building that’s about to self destruct.
 
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dreday3

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Still baffling to me. We don't even have the cultural reps back yet. A few countries are barren in similar ways, and yet no one talks about converting them.

Pavilions being changed/replaced is a whole different ballgame. Plus honestly these suggested changes are borderline offensive.

I totally think Italy needs a revamp. It's nothing but shops and restaurants!

It's like they think all we do is eat and drink...🤔😃
 

ppete1975

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Everyone’s just too scared to be the one to approve the budget and/or lose out on the income of shutting down a revenue center. Le Cellier hasn’t had a proper refurb since 1997. They just keep trying to patch it up. The hotel/former merchandise location keeps getting passed around to different lines of business that don’t want to/have the funds to do anything with it. All that adds up to a building that’s about to self destruct.
Like structure issues?
 

correcaminos

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I totally think Italy needs a revamp. It's nothing but shops and restaurants!

It's like they think all we do is eat and drink...🤔😃
My husband really noticed the lack of shops open this trip. We may not buy a lot, but we enjoy that in WS. A lot is still missing in so many areas. I definitely want more to see but I assume they make more selling food and drinks...

Is it me or is most of World Showcase left to rot unless it has a ride or like Japan a really unique gift shop?

Even Japan's back half was a shell of itself. So much is missing in so many WS pavilions
 

ppete1975

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Lots of leaks and rot
oh no... LEEKS!!
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