Monsters, Inc. Hollywood Studios rumor

[Genie of the Lamp]

So here's how I see this being played out. MI Door Coaster and Tron thrill ride get announced at D23 as both DLR parks get a project for each park and they will be open by the time DL celebrates its 60th anniversary. A mini Monstropolis will be constructed and both projects will go full out and try to live up to its highest show quality standards. Flash Forward 4-5 years later, we see TDO greenlight a clone for this ride in which DHS gets a half &$$ version of this ride to go along with an exit merchandise shop and a permanent m&g featuring Mike Wazowski and James P. Sullivan. I understand Monster's doesn't have anything to do with California and theme of California Adventure, but I tend to agree with @Ignohippo here since that area of the park it's scheduled to go in is so dead right now that if the MI Door Coaster and a mini Monstropolis would be placed in there, it would be a welcome addition to the park.

 

[donald_duck97]

So here's how I see this being played out. MI Door Coaster and Tron thrill ride get announced at D23 as both DLR parks get a project for each park and they will be open by the time DL celebrates its 60th anniversary. A mini Monstropolis will be constructed and both projects will go full out and try to live up to its highest show quality standards. Flash Forward 4-5 years later, we see TDO greenlight a clone for this ride in which DHS gets a half &$$ version of this ride to go along with an exit merchandise shop and a permanent m&g featuring Mike Wazowski and James P. Sullivan. I understand Monster's doesn't have anything to do with California and theme of California Adventure, but I tend to agree with @Ignohippo here since that area of the park it's scheduled to go in is so dead right now that if the MI Door Coaster and a mini Monstropolis would be placed in there, it would be a welcome addition to the park.

While I agree that this is the most likely scenario to play out, DHS needs more of a boost right now than DCA does IMO, especially after Carsland has been such a big hit there. WDW, specifically DHS and AK should be the main focus right now IMHO

 

[ThemeParks4Life]

So here's how I see this being played out. MI Door Coaster and Tron thrill ride get announced at D23 as both DLR parks get a project for each park and they will be open by the time DL celebrates its 60th anniversary. A mini Monstropolis will be constructed and both projects will go full out and try to live up to its highest show quality standards. Flash Forward 4-5 years later, we see TDO greenlight a clone for this ride in which DHS gets a half &$$ version of this ride to go along with an exit merchandise shop and a permanent m&g featuring Mike Wazowski and James P. Sullivan. I understand Monster's doesn't have anything to do with California and theme of California Adventure, but I tend to agree with @Ignohippo here since that area of the park it's scheduled to go in is so dead right now that if the MI Door Coaster and a mini Monstropolis would be placed in there, it would be a welcome addition to the park.

Mike and Sulley already have a permanent meet and greet.

 

[Genie of the Lamp]

While I agree that this is the most likely scenario to play out, DHS needs more of a boost right now than DCA does IMO, especially after Carsland has been such a big hit there. WDW, specifically DHS and AK should be the main focus right now IMHO

Yeah, DHS and AK should be the main focus now to go along with Future World at EPCOT. DHS needs a boost no question (more family/family thrill rides specifically), but DCA is still lacking in some areas of the park based on what I hear from @raven24 or @TP2000 such as Bug's Life Land and Hollywood Land (fill free to chip in here if there's more or don't know what I'm talking about). It's nice though that they're planning on enhancing the area where Muppetvision is and turning it into a mini Monstropolis and improving Hollywood Land in the process of doing so. However, Burbank/Execs. doesn't seem to be as invested in WDW as compared to DL and other parks worldwide. Generally, it's usually one park gets a ride and then WDW gets a clone of that ride with micro differences between the two.

 

[Genie of the Lamp]

Mike and Sulley already have a permanent meet and greet.

Do you know where? The last time I went to DHS was about 2-3 years ago. I just figured they would build one adjacent to the ride.

Edit: Nevermind, I see they greet guests on the Streets of America near the Studio Backlot Tour. Then a Monstropolis themed snack cart would take place then. I was just thinking with Carsland minus Luigi's possibly coming that m&g would be taken away and they'd want to build a permanent adjacent one next to this ride.

 

[Sped2424]

Yes, I have a pass. I'm guessing you're a WDW AP?

Indeed I do!! I say we switch places for a week!!! lol

 

[Sped2424]

I don't get it, is he afraid of horses?

(and it's a Xenomorph from Alien)

the western scene has a pretty loud shout out part and I dont think anyone under the age of 5 would react well to it.

 

[TP2000]

Did you mean Anaheim? It doesn't seem to be as big as a draw out there.

Midway Mania doesn't have as long of lines in Anaheim as it does in Orlando not just because it doesn't have Fastpass at DCA, but also because the parks the ride is in on both coasts are vastly different.

In Anaheim, Mania sits in a park with 21 rides and a half dozen theater shows. In Orlando, Mania sits in a park with only 6 rides and 10 theater shows (I threw in Fantasmic! as a "theater show" to help DHS, but didn't count World of Color as a "theater show" at DCA). Only 3 of those rides at DHS have no height requirement, thus the frenzy over Midway Mania at DHS.

Disney California Adventure
21 Rides (15 Without Height Requirements)
6 Theater Shows

Disney's Hollywood Studios
6 Rides (3 Without Height Requirements)
10 Theater Shows

If you are in DHS for the day, and especially if you have kids, you are desperate to get on at least a couple of theme park rides. Midway Mania has to be one of those. That's not even close to the situation at California Adventure. Same ride, different parks, very different situation for each version of the ride.

 

[Ignohippo]

So here's how I see this being played out. MI Door Coaster and Tron thrill ride get announced at D23 as both DLR parks get a project for each park and they will be open by the time DL celebrates its 60th anniversary. A mini Monstropolis will be constructed and both projects will go full out and try to live up to its highest show quality standards. Flash Forward 4-5 years later, we see TDO greenlight a clone for this ride in which DHS gets a half &$$ version of this ride to go along with an exit merchandise shop and a permanent m&g featuring Mike Wazowski and James P. Sullivan. I understand Monster's doesn't have anything to do with California and theme of California Adventure, but I tend to agree with @Ignohippo here since that area of the park it's scheduled to go in is so dead right now that if the MI Door Coaster and a mini Monstropolis would be placed in there, it would be a welcome addition to the park.

Sadly, I think it's more likely that TDO has opted for a CarsLand clone (or heaven forbid, only RSR), and will opt out of any other expansions for DHS knowing that they'll get a nice upswing from just Cars.

The next expansion would more than likely be SW at the end of the decade.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't know how much business sense it actually makes to add more than one major expansion to the park at a time. Besides the aesthetic updates, TLM was the only other major attraction added to CA (and that was to add something that appealed to girls and because it was being cloned for the MK). It can be argued that Cars and MI would be the same demographic – you'd be double-dipping into the same audience rather than getting unique guests.

My speculation, it'll be either Cars or MI – not both.

 

[J03Y]

at least we finally have a fully immerse original concept. and for MGM since Pixar Place. i fully support this.

 

[George]

Midway Mania doesn't have as long of lines in Anaheim as it does in Orlando not just because it doesn't have Fastpass at DCA, but also because the parks the ride is in on both coasts are vastly different.

In Anaheim, Mania sits in a park with 21 rides and a half dozen theater shows. In Orlando, Mania sits in a park with only 6 rides and 10 theater shows (I threw in Fantasmic! as a "theater show" to help DHS, but didn't count World of Color as a "theater show" at DCA). Only 3 of those rides at DHS have no height requirement, thus the frenzy over Midway Mania at DHS.

Disney California Adventure
21 Rides (15 Without Height Requirements)
6 Theater Shows

Disney's Hollywood Studios
6 Rides (3 Without Height Requirements)
10 Theater Shows

If you are in DHS for the day, and especially if you have kids, you are desperate to get on at least a couple of theme park rides. Midway Mania has to be one of those. That's not even close to the situation at California Adventure. Same ride, different parks, very different situation for each version of the ride.

Correct. Once, several years ago, I just counted rides at DLR versus WDW and at the time WDW won by maybe two rides (just doing theme parks). For a four theme park versus two deal, it's really pathetic. I actually think pre-Carsland, despite it's other problems, DCA may have been perceived as the second best park in O-town by quite a few of us had it been transplanted to Florida..you can't really do the experiment because of cloned attractions and the like, but it is interesting to think about.

 

[alphac2005]

Taking this thread directly off track, none of the 4 main parks in WDW are half day parks. The only way they are half day is if you choose to skip some of the things that don't interest you.

When most people decide that they can skip many of the things at AK and DHS, it is a problem and TDO needs to do something about that, but you can't say it is just a half day park.

I'm not going to derail it anymore, but if you go to theme parks for rides, then Animal Kingdom and the Studios are pretty much half-day parks especially if you're going to those parks with kids.

My 3 year old, what is he going ride on at AK that is a ride? The Dinoland spinner and Kilimanjaro. My 9 year olds have zero interest in AK when we go down in June because of a lack of rides. Same for the Studios. They want to go to Epcot and MK. One of them likes coasters, the other doesn't. So, AK, Everest is out, at the Studios, RnR and ToT are out for one of them. You aren't left with much.

When going to the MK and EPCOT as a kid (along with Disneyland), there were some shows, but they were secondary items. If Disneyland consisted of the ratio of shows to rides that is on par with those two parks, I don't think it would have ever been considered as great as it is.

Stage type shows and other products are main features at both AK and the Studios. To each their own, but if you don't like thrill rides and don't feel like sitting through stage shows in the blistering heat, many would argue that there isn't too much to do at these parks.

 

[marni1971]

Thats what im saying and what a lot of people have a hard time believing, that things are eventually going to improve and with the change in management and all this talk of possible expansions I can only see things getting better!

Things WILL get better eventually.

Maybe not this decade.

 

[alphac2005]

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If you are in DHS for the day, and especially if you have kids, you are desperate to get on at least a couple of theme park rides. Midway Mania has to be one of those. That's not even close to the situation at California Adventure. Same ride, different parks, very different situation for each version of the ride.

Right on. Let me tell you, as a parent, there is nothing more exciting than wanting to go around a theme park in 95 degree heat all day in search of three rides for three kids 10 and under. Ahem. That gets right at my prior comment in the thread, if you have kids and aren't looking for stage shows, there is virtually nothing for kids to go on at The Studios.

 

[Slowjack]

Re: Soarin' at DCA:

My other theory is we Californians can visit these destinations anytime we want, since we live in California. It's not that exciting to see Los Angeles in the video when I live smack dab in the middle of Los Angeles. Same goes for some of the other places in the video.

That's the reason the original DCA theme was a bad idea as a whole, in my opinion. Disney didn't put a New Orleans Square in the MK at WDW because it was thought that New Orleans was too close and familiar, even though most WDW guests wouldn't have visited the city personally. DCA was like having a New Orleans Square in a park in New Orleans.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Re: Soarin' at DCA:

That's the reason the original DCA theme was a bad idea as a whole, in my opinion. Disney didn't put a New Orleans Square in the MK at WDW because it was thought that New Orleans was too close and familiar, even though most WDW guests wouldn't have visited the city personally. DCA was like having a New Orleans Square in a park in New Orleans.

It was definitely redundant, although when Soarin' Over California debuted, everyone cheered and clapped for their own city or area when it popped up. The ride was a ton of fun when it first opened, but I've ridden it so many times...

The park has become less redundant over time. No more Golden Gate Bridge, no more hints like Burrrbank Ice Cream, the post card entrance, the Sun Wheel, names like Maliboomer and Mulholland Madness... Disney has "Disneyfied" the park and if one who had never been to DCA and was ignorant of the park's name, were to step into the park now, I can bet they wouldn't be able to guess the park is themed to California.

 

[Texas84]

Midway Mania doesn't have as long of lines in Anaheim as it does in Orlando not just because it doesn't have Fastpass at DCA, but also because the parks the ride is in on both coasts are vastly different.

In Anaheim, Mania sits in a park with 21 rides and a half dozen theater shows. In Orlando, Mania sits in a park with only 6 rides and 10 theater shows (I threw in Fantasmic! as a "theater show" to help DHS, but didn't count World of Color as a "theater show" at DCA). Only 3 of those rides at DHS have no height requirement, thus the frenzy over Midway Mania at DHS.

I agree but that wasn't my point. I was confused about the original statement that Mania wasn't a success in DHS. It obviously is regardless of the number of rides.

 

[TP2000]

Correct. Once, several years ago, I just counted rides at DLR versus WDW and at the time WDW by maybe two rides (just doing theme parks). For a four theme park versus two deal, it's really pathetic.

I started doing that comparison count seven or eight years ago staring at the four guidemaps on the plane rides back from WDW, and it is shocking how close the two properties are when it comes to the amount of rides.

I think in this exact year under the current circumstances where WDW has closed Snow White dark ride and before the Mine Train coaster opens, with four new rides opened last year at DCA, that Disneyland Resort currently has more rides than WDW Resort does. When the Mine Train opens in early '14 they might be even again, but I'd have to count.

And with the sudden cancellation of the DHS Pixar Pals Parade, as weak of an offering as it was, the comparison between "Parades & Night Spectaculars" is now alarmingly close between the 2 Disneyland parks and the 4 WDW parks overall.

It's baffling to me how they can pull that off in Orlando, but there it is. Thank God for Epcot!

 

[spacemt354]

I started doing that comparison count seven or eight years ago staring at the four guidemaps on the plane rides back from WDW, and it is shocking how close the two properties are when it comes to the amount of rides.

I think in this exact year under the current circumstances where WDW has closed Snow White dark ride and before the Mine Train coaster opens, with four new rides opened last year at DCA, that Disneyland Resort currently has more rides than WDW Resort does. When the Mine Train opens in early '14 they might be even again, but I'd have to count.

And with the sudden cancellation of the DHS Pixar Pals Parade, as weak of an offering as it was, the comparison between "Parades & Night Spectaculars" is now alarmingly close between the 2 Disneyland parks and the 4 WDW parks overall.

It's baffling to me how they can pull that off in Orlando, but there it is. Thank God for Epcot!

I've never really seen the point of comparing the two coasts in terms of "rides"

I would never put Heimlich's Choo Choo train in the same league as the likes of Spaceship Earth, yet when adding up the rides for each coast they both count as 1.
And Gadget's Go Coaster (maybe a minute) doesn't even compare in length or depth to the Universe of Energy (approx 30-40 mins) yet again they are each counted 1 ride, as if they were the same.

The reason why I say this is because it's not the number of rides that attracts people to each coast, nor is it what makes one coast "better" than the other. It is the depth, storytelling, and likability of certain rides that entices guests to make the trip, either to DL or WDW. I would never travel 2,500 miles out west for spinners, short kiddie rides, and similar experiences I can get at a local, less expensive park. What I would travel that far for would be rides such as RSR, and overall experiences of walking around an attraction such as Carsland.

I believe there was another area in the forums that I participated in, where we were determining what counted and what didn't count as an attraction. Looking back I feel like I wasted my time. Is the Shooting Arcade an attraction? What about meet and greets? Main Street Theater? How about Walk-through attraction? And again to the point I made above regarding rides. Ride A > Ride B so why is Ride A = Ride B when tallied up?

So when you say you tallied up DL and WDW to have a similar number of total rides, even though one has 2 parks and the other has 4 parks, it doesn't really do anything for me. For example, I would rather have 5 universally proclaimed E-ticket rides in Park A, than 10 spinners/kiddie rides in Park B. I think we would all agree on that. If you were to compare the number of E-tickets on both coasts, then that I feel might be better determinate of what entices the guests to come to the resort. However, a lot of personal bias comes into play when grading what is and what isn't an E-ticket, so I won't try and start.

All I know is that both resorts on each coast have enticing, unique offers to potential guests to motivate them to travel one way or the other, or to both. And rides aren't the only attractions offered to entertain the guests so comparing the resorts in terms of ride count doesn't do very much, in my opinion.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I've never really seen the point of comparing the two coasts in terms of "rides"

I would never put Heimlich's Choo Choo train in the same league as the likes of Spaceship Earth, yet when adding up the rides for each coast they both count as 1.
And Gadget's Go Coaster (maybe a minute) doesn't even compare in length or depth to the Universe of Energy (approx 30-40 mins) yet again they are each counted 1 ride, as if they were the same.

The reason why I say this is because it's not the number of rides that attracts people to each coast, nor is it what makes one coast "better" than the other. It is the depth, storytelling, and likability of certain rides that entices guests to make the trip, either to DL or WDW. I would never travel 2,500 miles out west for spinners, short kiddie rides, and similar experiences I can get at a local, less expensive park. What I would travel that far for would be rides such as RSR, and overall experiences of walking around an attraction such as Carsland.

I believe there was another area in the forums that I participated in, where we were determining what counted and what didn't count as an attraction. Looking back I feel like I wasted my time. Is the Shooting Arcade an attraction? What about meet and greets? Main Street Theater? How about Walk-through attraction? And again to the point I made above regarding rides. Ride A > Ride B so why is Ride A = Ride B when tallied up?

So when you say you tallied up DL and WDW to have a similar number of total rides, even though one has 2 parks and the other has 4 parks, it doesn't really do anything for me. For example, I would rather have 5 universally proclaimed E-ticket rides in Park A, than 10 spinners/kiddie rides in Park B. I think we would all agree on that. If you were to compare the number of E-tickets on both coasts, then that I feel might be better determinate of what entices the guests to come to the resort. However, a lot of personal bias comes into play when grading what is and what isn't an E-ticket, so I won't try and start.

All I know is that both resorts on each coast have enticing, unique offers to potential guests to motivate them to travel one way or the other, or to both. And rides aren't the only attractions offered to entertain the guests so comparing the resorts in terms of ride count doesn't do very much, in my opinion.

The average guest usually chooses either WDW or the DLR based on location, or based on the number of things to do.

All TP was trying to say was it's quite odd that, theme park wise, Disneyland and California Adventure have just as many things to do in all of Magic Kingdom, Epcot, Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios. WDW has "the blessing of size", yet its size is not used to its potential. The DLR is tiny compared to WDW, yet Disney always finds a way of sticking an attraction somewhere in either park, usually without taking much away. One would think WDW had lots more rides than the DLR. I'm sure the average guest believes that, but in reality the difference count is not astronomical.

A ride is a ride. No matter if it's small or large, impressive or not very impressive, it's still a ride and it counts. Heimlich's Chew Chew Train is a ride, just like Spaceship Earth.