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News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios
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JD80
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Better go late 2025!
Rockishcoco
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Sorry to veer back to this and its probably incomplete but
2011/12 - Removed: Snow White's Scary Adventure
Cancelled: 'Birthday Surprise for Princess Aurora”, “Dreams Come True with Cinderella”, Pixie Hollow. (Arguably an upgrade with 7DMT and expanded Storybook Circus).
2013/14 - Removed: American Idol, Maelstrom, Camp Minnie Mickey, Backlot Tour, HISTK Playground/Streets of America, Lights Motors Action
Cancelled: Hyperion Wharf (upgraded to Disney Springs)
2017/18 - Removed: Ellen’s Energy Adventure, Great Movie ride
Cancelled: Main Street Theatre, Reflections (Born again as off a couple months ago)
2019 - Removed: Innoventions, EPCOT Spine
Cancelled: Wondorous China, Mary Poppins UK, PLAY Pavillion, Original Festival Center, SSE Re-do, various EPCOT hub stuff.
2023 - Removed: Splash Mountain
Cancelled: ?
Obviously doesn't include non-WDW projects or things that got value-engineered down in construction and I probably missed a thing or two. Still, outside of the Covid EPCOT cuts, I think it's not terrible as far as cancelled projects. The only big loss (outside of Epcot) is the Main Street Theater.
JackCH
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Main Street Theater does make me sad though. Would have been great to have a major attraction on Main Street just to spread traffic.
MrPromey
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I find the Epcot spine particularly egregious. New attractions or reworked attractions off to the side being slow-rolled are one thing but they were way too comfortable leaving the front half of that park a torn up mess for way too long.
Things like that which directly impact guest's existing experiences, that negatively impact the park they've paid to go into should be prioritized but clearly, the experience of paying guests was not a major concern for leadership for those years.
... and of course, this was all happening while the rat ride was sitting, allegedly ready to go at the other end of the park with the doors locked waiting for the right marketing time to let people in, which in isolation, like I said at the start, whatever but that might have been a nice consolation for what was happening at the front.
This isn't that kind of company anymore, though.
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GoofGoof
Premium Member
Rat was held back to open for the 50th. I was there in August 2021 when they were finally doing CM previews but we couldn’t get in. The gift shop with the Ratatouille merch still managed to open ahead of the ride
There‘s no good excuse for doing that and the crowds were so low that Summer it would have been an ideal time to open and work out the kinks.
MrPromey
Well-Known Member
And they could have just had an extended "soft opening" and still held the Official opening for that, anyway.Rat was held back to open for the 50th. I was there in August 2021 when they were finally doing CM previews but we couldn’t get in. The gift shop with the Ratatouille merch still managed to open ahead of the ride
There‘s no good excuse for doing that and the crowds were so low that Summer it would have been an ideal time to open and work out the kinks.
It really didn't have to be that way - especially with how the 50th turned out, overall.
Homemade Imagineering
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Disnutz311
Disney World Purist
Has there been any chatter or do we think they will start to build the Monsters Roller Coaster before closing the land? Similar to what they are doing with Encanto and it happen in phases?
The problem is Disney's Project Management. When they announced at D23 and showed concept art they had no construction drawings completed. That is evident. They have submitted the CD set for permitting but that does not have to included lighting type, finishes, and props/decor and FF&E, animatronic specs, etc. They are working on this now I suspect.
Then comes the Adaptive Project Mindset. Things always changing, major in the field decision making where 18 people need to be involved, 3000 change orders and sign offs. That's how you get to the modern day 500 million for a roller coaster and it taking 3+ years with Disney. If they had all this ready to go, ran a Predective Mindset and then gave it to the GC you would see a ton of time shaved off.
The problem is Disney's Project Management. When they announced at D23 and showed concept art they had no construction drawings completed. That is evident. They have submitted the CD set for permitting but that does not have to included lighting type, finishes, and props/decor and FF&E, animatronic specs, etc. They are working on this now I suspect.
Then comes the Adaptive Project Mindset. Things always changing, major in the field decision making where 18 people need to be involved, 3000 change orders and sign offs. That's how you get to the modern day 500 million for a roller coaster and it taking 3+ years with Disney. If they had all this ready to go, ran a Predective Mindset and then gave it to the GC you would see a ton of time shaved off.
WeNamedTheDogIndiana
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Well, they don't want to work on things like animatronics or flooring before they can make social media posts to those effects. Just look at how the State of Florida is waiting for clarification on Cars with, what - 11 days to go? Disney wants fan approval before they get media approval before they get state approval, and the resulting fan approval is what determines their immediate next steps.
It's not bureaucracy. It's not marketing. It's really not capitalism, when it all comes down to it. It's just nerves.
DisneyDean97
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I agree Disney has been going pretty heavy with coaster additions recently, I would rather see Incredibles as a cool dark ride. But I don't mind DHS going heavy into the thrills to compete with Universal. MGM was always known as the "thrill" park with ToT and RnRC as the parks one/two punch.
ToTBellHop
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Yes, that work starts before MV3D closes.
TheMaxRebo
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Chatter? Sure, but nothing from Disney beyond "construction will be going in 2025" - but we don't know what that means. That could be for the show building backstage and Muppets Courtyard is intact for quite a while. Like they just said for Dinosaur staying open all of 2025.
Guess a lot depends on the order of things - do they do the RnRC change first and have that done and then close MV3D or do they try to do that whole area before RNRC know they have the villains show opening there and don't want construction that area?
Disgruntled Walt
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- In the Parks
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When do you think MV3D closes?
BirdbyBird
New Member
There's no greater franchise than the muppets, but their best days are behind them and I don't trust Disney to manage it.
mattpeto
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I think 2026, but would have felt more confident if it was on the blog post next to Dinosaur.
lazyboy97o
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They did not have their civil engineer hold off on work because of fan approval.
Fido Chuckwagon
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The water management issues are likely going to make this slip.
ToTBellHop
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I actually interpreted this as “2025 isn’t its last year” and it will close after Dino. It certainly can wait. It opens after Indy and the work on the Muppet theater is far less complicated than what will happen for Indy.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
In theory if Monsters Land doesn‘t open until 2028 they could keep MV3D open into 2027. I can’t imagine the show update and whatever cosmetic changes are needed for the outside of the theater take more than a year. Just because they can doesn’t mean they will. I assume the restaurants could also stay open for a while. If the ride is going to take 3 years to build I assume the updates to the rest of the buildings can wait at least a year or 2.