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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

Nickm2022

Well-Known Member
Sorry if this has been covered already...tried searching...does anyone know how this land will attach to current Pixar Place? Anyone savvy enough to draw up a map?
Confused, if you mean the old Toy Story Mania entrance this is nowhere near that. That said in the future they could always connect Galaxy's edge through there but there's just not enough incentive to do so
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Sorry if this has been covered already...tried searching...does anyone know how this land will attach to current Pixar area/Toy Story Land? Or will it not?
The land will connect the same as Muppets Courtyard today. The entrance will be from Grand Avenue. If you exit Monsters and go left you hit the tunnel into SWGE, if you exit Monsters and go right you will hit the intersection with Baseline Tap House on your left (in front of Sci-fi) and Star Tours on your right. The connection to Pixar Place was closed off when they built SWGE and Toy Story Land.

This:
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Will go where the red box is today. The Door Coaster is the only thing added beyond the current land. Not sure how far back into the parking lot. They have some space back there:
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Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
I think the top grossing franchises that Disney owns, but isn't currently using in the parks are:
  • Ice Age (6.42 billion)
  • The Simpsons (4.9 billion) [Don't have the rights at the moment]
  • Inside out (2.61 billion)
  • The Incredibles (2.37 billion)
  • Planet of the Apes (2.27 billion)
Zootopia is ~$1 billion, but with a sequel on the way, it will probably jump into this list.
Ice Age is being used..At Genting Skyworlds which features other lands based around the former Blue Sky studios films Epic, Rio and Robots...However, they have some pretty decent rides based around these films particularly Ice Age..
Trackless dark ride


And a Roller Coaster Themed to Scrat and his Acorn...
 

Blobbles

Well-Known Member
I think as some of the insiders have eluded, the plan for Muppets is to integrate them into smaller attractions in various places vs having a full blown Muppets land. I don’t see a Muppets ride being added in addition to RNRC. They could have appearances in other places though. I think that’s the best we are going to get.
I’d be fine with that. I’ve seen those allusions, and I hope at least one happens. I don’t think they’ll ever get a true ground up attraction again, which is a shame, but that’s life. I think multiple smaller locations is kinda smart on the imagineers part, as that probably ensures that the muppets will at least be around somewhere at wdw for a good while. And I would totally be down for multiple muppet rides. Although I do kinda have a gut feeling on where at least one of the other ones could go (no inside info, don’t get this twisted as a hint) and I don’t think many people here will be happy about it.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I’d be fine with that. I’ve seen those allusions, and I hope at least one happens. I don’t think they’ll ever get a true ground up attraction again, which is a shame, but that’s life. I think multiple smaller locations is kinda smart on the imagineers part, as that probably ensures that the muppets will at least be around somewhere at wdw for a good while. And I would totally be down for multiple muppet rides. Although I do kinda have a gut feeling on where at least one of the other ones could go (no inside info, don’t get this twisted as a hint) and I don’t think many people here will be happy about it.
I think Disney has gotten too fixated on whole lands based on an IP. I guess it really started with Harry Potter down the street but ironically Universal has no problem with standalone attractions. Transformers is a fun ride. I don’t need a whole land, I don’t need to be transported to their environment. I would be perfectly fine seeing a smaller muppet attraction in any of the parks. The muppets fit in just about anywhere on a small scale.
 

JackCH

Well-Known Member
I think Disney has gotten too fixated on whole lands based on an IP. I guess it really started with Harry Potter down the street but ironically Universal has no problem with standalone attractions. Transformers is a fun ride. I don’t need a whole land, I don’t need to be transported to their environment. I would be perfectly fine seeing a smaller muppet attraction in any of the parks. The muppets fit in just about anywhere on a small scale.
They sort of have, but not totally. Tropical Americas isn't, Cars technically isn't. Tron Wasn't. Guardians wasn't. Remy's wasn't. I know people feel that way but outside of Pandora, Star Wars, Toy Story, and Monsters, they have lots of "counter" examples. Compared to Universal it feels about the same. 4 of Epic Universe's lands are single IP areas, plus the Potter areas.

What I want them to avoid is having single attractions need a "land," like Zootopia. Just make a ride if that's a case. A land should only happen if you have enough ideas with the IP to make multiple attractions based on it. MI is right on that line lol.
 

Blobbles

Well-Known Member
I think Disney has gotten too fixated on whole lands based on an IP. I guess it really started with Harry Potter down the street but ironically Universal has no problem with standalone attractions. Transformers is a fun ride. I don’t need a whole land, I don’t need to be transported to their environment. I would be perfectly fine seeing a smaller muppet attraction in any of the parks. The muppets fit in just about anywhere on a small scale.
I agree. They work great as a smaller scale, and as a property and nearly fit anywhere, and it’d still be In character. I wouldn’t be surprised if some older attractions are getting looked at for being muppe-fied, and honestly I hope it happens, muppets are great.

I know RNRC is happening, but I can’t help but get a gut feeling that the recent “plans” that some people have been hearing about from imagineering will lead to muppets HOP. Len Testa mentioned it by name when even talking about the possibility, i think Marni brought it up a while ago. There’s also that “third attraction in danger” thing from before Brazil d23 that Steve (site owner) brought up that we never really figured out.

The real main thing for me right now pushing me towards “it has a good chance of happening” is: they waited a long time to announce the closing of muppets, because they knew it’d be controversial. January is when the HOP usually closes for the rerfurb. It’s getting closer, and nothing has been said. The longer we go without hearing, the less good the future looks for HOP imo.

But that’s just me.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
They sort of have, but not totally. Tropical Americas isn't, Cars technically isn't. Tron Wasn't. Guardians wasn't. Remy's wasn't. I know people feel that way but outside of Pandora, Star Wars, Toy Story, and Monsters, they have lots of "counter" examples. Compared to Universal it feels about the same. 4 of Epic Universe's lands are single IP areas, plus the Potter areas.

What I want them to avoid is having single attractions need a "land," like Zootopia. Just make a ride if that's a case. A land should only happen if you have enough ideas with the IP to make multiple attractions based on it. MI is right on that line lol.
I’m not sure how Cars isn’t but I agree on the other one off additions. I wish they did more of that. I think the Monsters Doors coaster could have probably worked fine where it’s proposed without changing the rest of the area. Keep MV3D and maybe do one of the restaurants. For years MV3D existed next to Star Tours and with a Toy Story themed pizza planet next door along with a generic italian restaurant. ToT works fine as 1930s Hollywood next to RNRC which is obviously not set in the 1930s (Steven Tyler only looks that old).
 

The Leader of the Club

Well-Known Member
I’m not sure how Cars isn’t but I agree on the other one off additions. I wish they did more of that. I think the Monsters Doors coaster could have probably worked fine where it’s proposed without changing the rest of the area. Keep MV3D and maybe do one of the restaurants. For years MV3D existed next to Star Tours and with a Toy Story themed pizza planet next door along with a generic italian restaurant. ToT works fine as 1930s Hollywood next to RNRC which is obviously not set in the 1930s (Steven Tyler only looks that old).
Cars is being proposed as part of Frontierland, not a new Cars Land like in DCA.

I agree that losing MuppetVision for some random Monsters show just to justify calling it a “land” is short sighted. Should have just built the coaster and rethemed Melrose to Harryhausen’s. If that’s successful, then we could talk about expanding the land into Muppets. Not the other way around.
 

JackCH

Well-Known Member
I’m not sure how Cars isn’t but I agree on the other one off additions. I wish they did more of that. I think the Monsters Doors coaster could have probably worked fine where it’s proposed without changing the rest of the area. Keep MV3D and maybe do one of the restaurants. For years MV3D existed next to Star Tours and with a Toy Story themed pizza planet next door along with a generic italian restaurant. ToT works fine as 1930s Hollywood next to RNRC which is obviously not set in the 1930s (Steven Tyler only looks that old).
I just mean Cars "technically" is part of Frontierland and isn't really themed to Radiator Springs, but to a national park setting. That's why I said "technically" lol, but I know it is basically a Cars land in the middle of Frontierland.

And yeah, Monsters definitely is borderline. I personally am okay with it because I find Grand Avenue to be a mess and don't have a strong attachment to Muppets, but I get it. And it really feels like it was "we want to build the Door Coaster" not "we think Monsters would make a great land," which is what I don't want them to do.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
You are not usually one to hint at things… am I misreading your post?
Just an awareness of what’s usually in such spaces. That space between Rise of the Resistance, Muppet*Vision 3D and Mama Melrose was guest space that was turned into back of house space. It’s not laid out in a way that says “we intended for this to become guest space again”. They even put equipment in the area. My guess is that equipment is there and a big ride like Rise respected Cypress Dr because there’s a bunch of stuff under there.

Stuff can be dealt with if the desire is there but it’s also a headache that can eat up resources.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Cars is being proposed as part of Frontierland, not a new Cars Land like in DCA.
I just mean Cars "technically" is part of Frontierland and isn't really themed to Radiator Springs, but to a national park setting. That's why I said "technically" lol, but I know it is basically a Cars land in the middle of Frontierland.
I reject the idea that Carsland will just be part of Frontierland. There were no cars in the 19th century American Frontier.

By the way, I know I am wrong here. I know that’s what Disney is saying and I know Tiana also doesn’t fit in there either but I still reserve the right to be irrational and refuse to accept reality.
 

JackCH

Well-Known Member
I reject the idea that Carsland will just be part of Frontierland. There were no cars in the 19th century American Frontier.

By the way, I know I am wrong here. I know that’s what Disney is saying and I know Tiana also doesn’t fit in there either but I still reserve the right to be irrational and refuse to accept reality.
I mean, valid 😂 I know once it is built my family will probably refer to it as Cars Land lol.
 

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