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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

Surferboy567

Surferboy567

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LSLS said:
That'd actually be incredible. Make it an omnimover that takes you on an entire tour of building, including into the factory where you get to see the doors being setup in real time.
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That would be incredible. Maybe they could do something like this on a smaller scale if they bring laugh floor over. The queue could somehow intercept with the door coaster as both take you though the factory.
 
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Streetway

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i dunno what a modern muppets dark ride would look like. Yknow I always though a fun way to “save” the great movie ride was to somewhat turn it into the concept for the Great muppet movie ride that was planned. Maybe like, the muppets took over GMR and are attempting to do movies scenes but they are all wrong. Maybe have animatronic starter and Waldorf in the front doing commentary on it? I dunno if doing that in the actual gmr would’ve been too on the nose or a bit “disrespectful” yknow
 
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SamEagle80

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This article touches on something that I think Disney should be doing with the Muppets. Try revitalizing the original series with the Muppets doing skits that are parodies of Disney properties with the guest stars.

Let them host the Oscars. Create alternate-universe short stories like “what if Kermit the Frog was Iron Man?” Put Swedish Chef in an episode of The Bear. Let Miss Piggy guest star on Drag Race (not a Disney property, but can you imagine?).
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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Sneaky said:
i dunno what a modern muppets dark ride would look like. Yknow I always though a fun way to “save” the great movie ride was to somewhat turn it into the concept for the Great muppet movie ride that was planned. Maybe like, the muppets took over GMR and are attempting to do movies scenes but they are all wrong. Maybe have animatronic starter and Waldorf in the front doing commentary on it? I dunno if doing that in the actual gmr would’ve been too on the nose or a bit “disrespectful” yknow
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Any Muppet ride would likely start out as something mundane and then it goes off the tracks….basically the plot of Muppet Vision in a ride or similar to the Mickey Train but instead of goofy messing things up it’s the muppets. Add in some ”lame” jokes, slap stick comedy and the 2 old guys and you have a smash hit.
 
WDWFREAK53

WDWFREAK53

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GoofGoof said:
Any Muppet ride would likely start out as something mundane and then it goes off the tracks….basically the plot of Muppet Vision in a ride or similar to the Mickey Train but instead of goofy messing things up it’s the muppets. Add in some ”lame” jokes, slap stick comedy and the 2 old guys and you have a smash hit.
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I always liked the idea of an attraction similar to GMR but with the Muppets doing their parody scenes of iconic films.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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SamEagle80 said:


This article touches on something that I think Disney should be doing with the Muppets. Try revitalizing the original series with the Muppets doing skits that are parodies of Disney properties with the guest stars.

Let them host the Oscars. Create alternate-universe short stories like “what if Kermit the Frog was Iron Man?” Put Swedish Chef in an episode of The Bear. Let Miss Piggy guest star on Drag Race (not a Disney property, but can you imagine?).
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I fully believe that there is no line Disney won't cross.
 
CoasterFan27

CoasterFan27

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TrainsOfDisney said:
You know what old school Disney would do - design a door coaster and a dark ride and the 2 would interact. How cool would that be!!!
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"Old school Disney" never did anything like that so I don't know where you got that idea from other than to concoct an imaginary complaint about contemporary Disney who never do anything interesting. You're not alone in that on this board don't worry 😅

But yeah, the idea itself would be neat, the dark ride could be a chase in and out of the different doors and you'd have the coaster swoop overhead in the monster world side. Nightmare to sync for stoppages etc though so probably couldn't reliably choreograph anything.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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JD80 said:
Disney has made many attempts with the Muppets over the years. Decent ones too.

  • The Muppets in 2011
  • Muppets Most Wanted in 2014
  • Muppet Moments in 2015
  • The Muppets (TV) in 2015
  • Muppets on D+ 2019 (canceled during development)
  • Muppets Now in 2020
  • Muppets Haunted Mansion in 2021
  • Muppets Mayhem in 2023
None of these shows received enough eyeballs to keep them going. The two Muppet movies in 2011 and 2014 made a combined $240M. Inc context it took Inside Out 2 one week to top both films.

Muppets aren't just popular with a broader audience.
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There has been some decent content there, but in general the type of budget needed for a Muppets production is really a streaming level budget. The days of Disney putting out a major theatrical release involving the Muppets are behind us. They're a nice franchise, but there are plenty of other streaming options that outperform the Muppets.

I'll preface this by saying that our family enjoys Bluey. It's remarkably popular on Disney+ (top 5 streamed shows). If Monstropolis wasn't happening and they simply said they were replacing Muppet*Vision with a 15 minute Bluey 3-d show, I'd guess it would draw more crowds than Muppet*Vision.

The biggest thing the Muppets have for them is nostalgia, and Disney doesn't typically like dealing in nostalgia for new builds (non-Indiana Jones division).
 
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Chip Chipperson

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JD80 said:
Disney has made many attempts with the Muppets over the years. Decent ones too.

  • The Muppets in 2011
  • Muppets Most Wanted in 2014
  • Muppet Moments in 2015
  • The Muppets (TV) in 2015
  • Muppets on D+ 2019 (canceled during development)
  • Muppets Now in 2020
  • Muppets Haunted Mansion in 2021
  • Muppets Mayhem in 2023
None of these shows received enough eyeballs to keep them going. The two Muppet movies in 2011 and 2014 made a combined $240M. Inc context it took Inside Out 2 one week to top both films.

Muppets aren't just popular with a broader audience.
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I loved the series on ABC. It was worth making for the Animal/Dave Grohl drum-off scene alone. I also liked Muppets Now and Muppets Haunted Mansion. Muppets Mayhem was okay but underwhelming to me - it still would have been worth giving it a 2nd season to see if it got better, though.
 
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Fido Chuckwagon

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Am I seeing this right? We’re back to it’s too hot…so people don’t go to Florida again?

Right…it’s not at all the price…the upsell…and the uncomfortable environment Bob has intentionally create to bleed us all?

Can’t be that…wouldn’t result in an attendance lag that they have to admit publicly and to their financial detriment.

Nope
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No, it was specific to TSI. MK can be absolutely packed 10/10 crowd levels and wall to wall people, but if it's 90+ degrees out than TSI is going to be a ghost town.
 
phillip9698

phillip9698

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RSoxNo1 said:
There has been some decent content there, but in general the type of budget needed for a Muppets production is really a streaming level budget. The days of Disney putting out a major theatrical release involving the Muppets are behind us. They're a nice franchise, but there are plenty of other streaming options that outperform the Muppets.

I'll preface this by saying that our family enjoys Bluey. It's remarkably popular on Disney+ (top 5 streamed shows). If Monstropolis wasn't happening and they simply said they were replacing Muppet*Vision with a 15 minute Bluey 3-d show, I'd guess it would draw more crowds than Muppet*Vision.

The biggest thing the Muppets have for them is nostalgia, and Disney doesn't typically like dealing in nostalgia for new builds (non-Indiana Jones division).
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Not sure Disney would want to pay to feature Bluey when they dont own the property. I thought it was strange they didnt have a PJ Mask meet and greet over in that kiddie area as they property was white hot years ago. I was told that because Disney didnt own the property, only licensed it, they wouldnt do it.

But back to the point at hand. IMO Disney would come out better if they aimed the demo of the Muppets down to kids. The ship has sailed on targeting adults. In the age of streaming, few adults are going to choose to watch the Muppets when they have every piece of media available to them at their fingertips. Aim it back at kids, then kids would clamor to visit their attraction(s) and ask for merch. Most of their characters can easily transition to that level of humor. Hell, me and my sister religiously watched Muppet Babies as kids (it doesnt necessarily have to go back to babies though).
 
Gusey

Gusey

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Unbanshee said:
At what point do we start to look at the Muppets as a dead franchise? They're 124th on the box office list for franchises, with a lot of terrible franchises ahead of them

www.boxofficemojo.com

Franchises (US & Canada)

www.boxofficemojo.com www.boxofficemojo.com

Monsters Inc. is #71
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But you can't base The Muppets' success on just Box Office because it started as a TV show, that had feature films. Similarly, The Simpsons aren't on that list, but still an active franchise. If you want to base The Muppets success as a franchise on anything, it would probably be on just how many movies (8), TV Movies (3) TV shows (14) and TV Specials (26) they've had
 

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