MagicEye99
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Any goodwill they had has been, as we say in the accounting profession, impaired. And I can’t say it’s getting fixed anytime soon.
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News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios
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GoofGoof
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As long as they aren’t worried about moving some random people’s offices (which they definitely should not be) then the AC location has a lot more space. MC is shoehorned in between Galaxy‘s Edge and Star Tours. The path in front is already a log jam with people going through the tunnel to SWGE. They could go backwards into backstage and parking lot but no guarantee they will want to.
I may be behind on rumors but I thought some insider here said they heard MI at AC would likely have a show along with the door coaster and play area but in MC there may not be a show. It seemed like the AC location would be a better version of MI and there was also talk of connecting back to RnRC area creating a loop instead of 2 dead ends that exist today. Seems much better for flow. It will also cost more to build in AC area so that could be a factor.
Horizons '83
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So my co-worker has claimed that Monsters will be going into AC and a path will be built to connect to RnR. Confirmed... end of thread 
danlb_2000
Premium Member
That building encompasses much more then the Little Mermaid theater, for example One Man's Dream is in there.
Fido Chuckwagon
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According to Touring Plans / @lentesta 's site, MK has been a 10/10 on:
1. 2/20/2024
2. 4/4/2024
3. 3/25/2024
4. 1/3/2024
5. 1/2/2024
6. 12/29/2023
7. 12/20/2023
8. 12/18/2023
9. 11/20/2023
10. 10/11/2023
11.; 11/21/2022
12. 3/24/2022
13. 2/28/2022
14. 2/22/2022
15. 2/21/2022
16. 2/20/2022
17; 2/18/2022
18. 2/9/2022
19. 2/7/2022
20. 1/24/2022
21. 12/24/2021
No argument from me that attendance is down across WDW as a whole, and especially resort occupancy is way down, but MK still remains quite popular. If I had included crowd level 9 days in that mix, there would have been quite a bit more.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I was there during some of those days. Not even close to “packed”
I love Len and respect his data…but It is based on ride wait times
So a bit of a gap in the metrics there
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
I believe the Red Car Trolleys were the only new domestic ride addition under Iger that wasn't tied to an IP.
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doctornick
Well-Known Member
There's more space in AC. So if your concern is it being "shoehorned" that's yet another issue with the Muppet area.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…well we gotta nip that in the bud
Phicinfan
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The fallout from this would be huge. The fans would be livid
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
They love shoehorning…more appearance of large crowds to sell upcharges when overall attendance is declining
The Leader of the Club
Well-Known Member
I can’t imagine they kill Figment and MV3D in one fell swoop. I’d expect Electric Mayhem RnRC or Muppets in HOP before that.
MagicEye99
Active Member
I have no doubt that they would do something like this. TWDC under Iger and his IP mandate has proven that anything not attached to one of its non-park media properties is at their mercy. I’ve said this multiple times, nothing at these parks is safe if it isn’t based on a movie or TV show. These parks will look very, very different in 10-15 years…
lentesta
Premium Member
Thank you!
Wait times are also a function of staffing and ride vehicles. One of the reasons why we started counting guests exiting a ride back in 2017 was that we suspected crowds and wait times were mismatched.
Just as one example, Space Mountain was running at under 1,200 riders/hour from 11 a.m. on Wednesday, 15 February 2017. The posted wait times for that hour ranged from 60 to 80 minutes. No downtime was observed.
Space Mountain seems to average around 1,600 guests per hour, so this was a 25% cut in capacity.
The highest hourly capacity we've ever measured at Space is 1,827, on 28 March 2018 starting at 11:45 a.m. Or, more than 50% more that that day in 2017.
CoasterFan27
Active Member
Hate to break it to you but they do it because it that's what people like. As much as I enjoy the classic non-IP stuff even still in Paris I was delighted seeing Marvel stuff. I'd prefer a blend but the parks cost a ton to run and what pays for that is getting seats on rides, a poster with Iron Man brings in more butts than a generic Western themed ride in an era where that's not that popular.
OG Disneyland was splashed with corporate names and overlays, I'm not sure that's much better and certainly isn't better imo.
Fact is GP likes IP, Disney's just making the sound financial move which is hard to blame if that's what appeals most to that majority by volume of their audience. People talk on here about how great Universal is yet compatible when Disney use IPs, it's just rose tinted specs all around.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Probably why they are getting rid of them. Either that or make a Trolleys movie.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I never doubt data science and that is what you do…but there is a lot of fan misconception on crowds in the current genie world
For example: today Disney parks released their after house announcement on face book and the reactions were “thank god, the parks are MOBBED”
Now those could be bots from TWDC…
Or more likely Orlandites who eat dust flakes for breakfast.
So do I believe a 100% PR Crafted financial report where they said “attendance is softening and we expect that to continue into 2025”?
(Not to mention my own eyes and experience)
Or some ex CPs living in BVL?
Tough call
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lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Just retheme it. Thanos’s Trolley Problem: A Musical Ethic-venture.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…no “adventure”?