News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Surferboy567]

I wouldn't say probably, I'd say it is.

Are we really sure? The Muppet store has been all but shuttered for a decade before it closed for covid. 90% of what Disney has produced has not been good, to be kind. The one show that was received really really well, won awards, had a number album, that was a great relaunch jumping off point, they cancelled. So for me, it's a bit hard to say I agree when Disney has handled the IP so poorly.

I liked Muppets Haunted Mansion (come to think of it I watch it every Halloween now since it‘s release), but to be fair Disney doesn’t really try and do anything substantial with the muppets since the movies (which for what’s its worth I largely enjoyed most wanted has some weird stuff in it but was enjoyable). The first muppets project under Disney with Jason Segel is borderline a classic in my house. It’s quoted all the time, and man or muppet is a favorite song.

Muppets Now though is TERRIBLE.

 

[easyrowrdw]

I still wonder who likes tthe Muppets over losing rivers of America. The muppets movie is so old. rebuild it or give me a better than the 1990s 3D movie. Take it down for Monsters, please!

I'd rather keep the River and Island than Muppets. But I also don't see a great reason why we should have to lose either to grow the parks. They can both stay and there's still plenty of space to expand.

Are we really sure? The Muppet store has been all but shuttered for a decade before it closed for covid. 90% of what Disney has produced has not been good, to be kind. The one show that was received really really well, won awards, had a number album, that was a great relaunch jumping off point, they cancelled. So for me, it's a bit hard to say I agree when Disney has handled the IP so poorly.

I do wonder why they don't open the store. I have to imagine that would help sales of Muppets merchandise.

 

[Streetway]

I still wish we got the muppet movie ride and the full muppet studiou. But the pessimistic side in me wonders if it would even still be around today.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I wouldn't say probably, I'd say it is.

Are we really sure? The Muppet store has been all but shuttered for a decade before it closed for covid. 90% of what Disney has produced has not been good, to be kind. The one show that was received really really well, won awards, had a number album, that was a great relaunch jumping off point, they cancelled. So for me, it's a bit hard to say I agree when Disney has handled the IP so poorly.

I think you're agreeing with me. In short, I don't think Disney views The Muppets as a franchise worth investing in. In fairness, I think they've given them a fair shake, even produced some solid content and people didn't really care.

With that said, I think Muppet fans would be more than willing to accept a new attraction elsewhere on property. Some possible candidates:

• Sounds Dangerous Theater
• DHS Cars Theater
• Hall of Presidents
• Muppets seasonal overlay on Haunted Mansion?

 

[Streetway]

I think you're agreeing with me. In short, I don't think Disney views The Muppets as a franchise worth investing in. In fairness, I think they've given them a fair shake, even produced some solid content and people didn't really care.

With that said, I think Muppet fans would be more than willing to accept a new show elsewhere on property.

I agree, but I don’t think the muppets are permanently broken. Maybe, unfortunately, they need to go to sleep for a little while, and then come back with a new creative head or team with a new vision when the muppets are ready again.

 

[Surferboy567]

Why did you choose violence today?

That’s always been my stance, I mean no violence toward anyone. I’ve never liked TSL and don’t lament its loss.

I respect everyone’s opinion toward the area though. I was upset when a bunch of recent attractions closed so I definitely understand what it’s like to lose fond areas of the park.

 

[Surferboy567]

I think you're agreeing with me. In short, I don't think Disney views The Muppets as a franchise worth investing in.

As much as I hate to agree with you, I do in this case. That is kinda why I have made peace with the fact that Muppets may be removed. Like I said though, I don’t want that to happen.

I agree, but I don’t think the muppets are permanently broken.

I also agree with this perspective.

• Muppets seasonal overlay on Haunted Mansion?

I’d like that. Your idea brought me back to this video someone made a while ago. It’s rough but it gets the idea across.

 

[Purduevian]

I'd rather keep the River and Island than Muppets. But I also don't see a great reason why we should have to lose either to grow the parks. They can both stay and there's still plenty of space to expand.

Playing devil's advocate here...

Staffing has to be a pretty large reason here. The Orlando market is pretty much tight on available workers for theme parks. Now add in that a new theme park is opening next year.

 

[Streetway]

I also agree with this perspective.

Hot take. I know it’s impossible, but in my opinion….
Maybe Star Wars should “go to sleep for a while” with the muppets.

 

[bwr827]

I still wonder who likes tthe Muppets over losing rivers of America. The muppets movie is so old. rebuild it or give me a better than the 1990s 3D movie. Take it down for Monsters, please!

I’d keep the Muppets over TSI, but would retain at least some of the river if possible while seeing the Muppets go.

 

[bwr827]

Hot take. I know it’s impossible, but in my opinion….
Maybe Star Wars should “go to sleep for a while” with the muppets.

Maybe in terms of new Star Wars attractions, but certainly not affecting any existing ones.

 

[Streetway]

Maybe in terms of new Star Wars attractions, but certainly not affecting any existing ones.

This was referring to the media side of things as opposed to parks

 

[doctornick]

In terms of how it affects guest experiences at their respective parks, I think losing MuppetVision is worse than the RoA just because of the limited options of attractions at DHS.

Losing the RoA and Liberty Belle hurts a lot from a theming prospective but you can still have plenty of other stuff to do at that park without them.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Jim Hill deserves a major apology!
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We've been doubting him for years on this project becoming a thing!

17 years.

 

[Surferboy567]

17 years.

Wow that’s actually hilarious how long it’s taken.

 

[Disstevefan1]

The big lie that Disney spins is this stuff as expansion when its actually "destroy and replace".

Folks who defend Disney, say destroying Muppets is an "increase in capacity" as more folks will go in the Monsters ride than attended Muppets.

By my math, if they kept Muppets AND ADDED Monsters in an unused area, THAT is an expansion and would literally increase capacity as you have folks still enjoying Muppets AND folks going on Monsters.

 

[Surferboy567]

Anyone remember this?

 

[Surferboy567]

My my math, if they kept Muppets AND ADDED Monsters in an unused area, THAT is an expansion and would literally increase capacity as you have folks still enjoying Muppets AND folks going on Monsters.

Yep, also AC has been a ghost town for like 10 years.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Is it possible that both can be true? Maybe the office is being torn down to make room for a second expansion pad. All the while Monsters is already under construction on the other side of the park. This would mean they could build twice as fast in the AC plot if an expansion were announced for that area in 2026.

Getting demolition done early would not allow building to occur twice as fast. Disney already typically overlaps design and construction. Getting the demolition done early isn’t really going to do much in the way of accelerating a project schedule.

Even if they are backing out of it, they’d have to announce by next week as that starts the beginning of September. They also probably need to file permits soon.

Probably not. The earliest permits that get filed (like those just filed for the Magic Kingdom) are for water management. Both sites are already rather built up so there should not be a need for changes to the park’s water management strategy.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Calling DHS a junk drawer is disingenuous. It's almost as if Disney's Hollywood Studios is becoming a Theme Park featuring Disney's Hollywood Studios. Remember them? LucasFilm (Galaxy's Edge), Pixar (Toy Story Land, Mosters Inc Land), FOX and probably Marvel (eventually). When Muppets Courtyard does go, and it will in the next 10 years I expect, it will be for a Star Wars expansion. Everything about the Monsters Inc Land designs scream Animation Courtyard to me.

I don’t think I could shake my head more than on this one…thanks for that