Monorail Expansion

[s8film40]

I wasn't talking about communities I was talking about Disney and how they think about stuff. But, although there are places that have Monorail systems, they are few and far between. If they were economically sound they would be all over the place. They aren't! The outside community isn't rejecting them due to the high cost of switches because they don't ever even get that far before they know it isn't workable or economical.

I think you need to look into this a little further, there are plenty of monorail systems all over the world and quite few right now in various stages of development. The outside community isn't rejecting them, they're building them. Bombardier didn't build a whole new monorail factory just for the fun of it.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I think you need to look into this a little further, there are plenty of monorail systems all over the world and quite few right now in various stages of development. The outside community isn't rejecting them, they're building them. Bombardier didn't build a whole new monorail factory just for the fun of it.

Yea, they probably built it waiting for the order from Disney to come through. Seriously, I've traveled the world and other then the one in Vegas and Miami, I've yet to come across one. They aren't exactly blocking the light from the sun in any substantial way.

 

[flynnibus]

Explain. I can see more flexibility that the current monorail system, but as much as buses will take some convincing.

The magical trains that don't run on tracks of course... duh!!

 

[s8film40]

Yea, they probably built it waiting for the order from Disney to come through. Seriously, I've traveled the world and other then the one in Vegas and Miami, I've yet to come across one. They aren't exactly blocking the light from the sun in any substantial way.

Here's a list for you if you want to do quite a bit of traveling. There's also quite a few systems under construction right now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monorail_systems

 

[halltd]

Seriously, I've traveled the world and other then the one in Vegas and Miami, I've yet to come across one. They aren't exactly blocking the light from the sun in any substantial way.

There are definitely more than three operating monorail systems in the World. ha ha.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monorail_systems

Edit: Boooooooooooo.....@s8film40 beat me by seconds!!!

 

[s8film40]

There are definitely more than three operating monorail systems in the World. ha ha.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monorail_systems

Edit: Boooooooooooo.....@s8film40 beat me by seconds!!!

Yep, and the largest one has more than 53 miles of monorail track!

 

[Goofyernmost]

Here's a list for you if you want to do quite a bit of traveling. There's also quite a few systems under construction right now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monorail_systems

There are definitely more than three operating monorail systems in the World. ha ha.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monorail_systems

Edit: Boooooooooooo.....@s8film40 beat me by seconds!!!

I didn't say that there were only three in the world. What I said is that is all I have seen. They aren't exactly covering the landscape. They have been in existence for years and years, I know that, but, it wasn't for nothing that major cities didn't adapt to them like flies on garbage. They are expensive and bulky to operate. They, like I said, are a novelty and good for short spans and not much else.

There is a reason that when we leave the Contemporary heading for MK and we are on that very high section that all I can think about is if something happens here, in this spot, like a fire, I and everyone with me are going to be Disney Fried Guests. There is no escape for a large group of people.

 

[s8film40]

They are expensive and bulky to operate. They, like I said, are a novelty and good for short spans and not much else.

I guess I never realized the 53 mile line in Chongqing or the 15 miles being built in São Paulo were merely amusement rides.

 

[flynnibus]

I prefer these...

 

[Master Yoda]

I prefer these...

So do I. They make great YouTube videos.

 

[s8film40]

So do I. They make great YouTube videos.

I rode the Metro light rail in that video the first day it opened, it's the perfect example of why rail should never be mixed with automobile traffic. They were letting people ride for free the first day. It was so inefficient they had to bus all the people back to where they started once they got to the other end of the line. The bus ride back was much faster.

 

[Master Yoda]

I rode the Metro light rail in that video the first day it opened, it's the perfect example of why rail should never be mixed with automobile traffic. They were letting people ride for free the first day. It was so inefficient they had to bus all the people back to where they started once they got to the other end of the line. The bus ride back was much faster.

I agree. Rail and cars mix like nitroglycerin and a paint mixer.

 

[backwoodsfarm]

On different note does any one know what type of maintance is being done that the monorail is going to be down so much between now and the middle of March?

 

[flynnibus]

I agree. Rail and cars mix like nitroglycerin and a paint mixer.

It works great in Oslo. We just need to thin the herd a bit here in the states... we shouldn't be building our transportation networks to the lowest common denominator.. rather we should be raising our standards of acceptable.

 

[FettFan]

We were at the parks a few weeks back and were talking with one of the older monorail drivers. During our conversation he said in the mid 2000s expansion had been discussed and construction had even started on concrete bases in the area of AK. But with the down turn in attendance in the mid 2000s the project was put on hold. This project was to include another TTC and Maintance area at Epcot. In our conversations he told me it has been brought up recently with the record breaking attendance. Just out of curiosity can anyone confirm this or just a monorail drive telling tall tales??

He was only a part-time monorail captain...his regular job was a bus driver.

 

[FettFan]

It's like investing in a brand new, 100" curved screen Ultra 4k TV in order to watch nothing but reruns of Mr. Ed. Sure, it'd be nice to look at, but would add no extra value to you that a vastly cheaper TV would.

You know what? I'm very much tempted to buy a dvd of Mr. Ed and see if I can get a Best Buy employeee to put it on their 4k Curved TV displays. That would be TOTALLY AWESOME.

 

[s8film40]

You know what? I'm very much tempted to buy a dvd of Mr. Ed and see if I can get a Best Buy employeee to put it on their 4k Curved TV displays. That would be TOTALLY AWESOME.

Actually Mr. Ed was shot on 35mm so could easily be scanned in 4K. I don't know if they have any 4K Bluray's available of the show though.

 

[Master Yoda]

It works great in Oslo. We just need to thin the herd a bit here in the states... we shouldn't be building our transportation networks to the lowest common denominator.. rather we should be raising our standards of acceptable.

Our cities are quite literally designed for cars not humans. The same is not true for Oslo Norway or many other cities in Europe, UK, etc for that matter.

 

[flynnibus]

Our cities are quite literally designed for cars not humans. The same is not true for Oslo Norway or many other cities in Europe, UK, etc for that matter.

Having been there.. and in major cities here... I can honestly say the issue is people here - not the city nor it's streets. The trams navigate the major arteries with traffic lights just like everyone else in their cars, and people pay the F'ing attention so they don't die. People play chicken with the buses (that have stops out away from the curb!! zOMG) more than they do with the trams. The trams run the major arteries and buses run both local and long haul routes. There is also subways and actual passenger trains that run both in the city and connecting out to the suburbs. Then there are ferries that run the cross water routes... all of it integrated.

The streets of Oslo look no different than the streets of Baltimore, DC, Philly, etc... it's just a smaller metro area.

 

[mm121]

Looked through this thread but not going to respond to everything since lots of it is crazy talk.

while it would be great to have some type of fixed transit connecting all the parks, I dont think expanding the current monorail system is the right thing to do or the best use of funds.

personally I'd vote for some type of PRT system like at london hethrow, a system like that would be able to provide direct point to point transit without connections and would be able to be expanded as new resorts/destinations are created

they could even do it as a "premium" transit system and charge extra for it possibly.

if they simply wanted to make a train system i think an elevated/ground level light rail type system would be best especially for connecting to animal kingdom or a combination of lightT/PRT would be amazing

connect groups of resorts together with PRT and different TTC hubs and connect the hubs with a mass transit light rail system, thus enabling anyone to get from anywhere to anywhere without a bus

the trick to getting anything at all built though would be to come up with a plan that could be built in stages, and have the first stage or two provide alot of tangible benefit.

while it all sounds cool, i just dont see it ever happening, since people aren't canceling trips to wdw due to traffic etc, as long as ticket sales are high nothing will change

and while the monorail is "cool" or perceived to be, alot it benefits from the "novelty" factor alot

it would have been smart to incorporate mass transit from the get go, but unfortunately disneys been on the bus kick for over 30 years now, so its really hard to change the mindset