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Mission: SPACE testing a "no G Force" version of the experience
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dimebagdarrel
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wdwmagic said:
Disney is changing the ride because people are scared that they might die. I know I wouldn't let any of my family ride it.
dimebagdarrel
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Because they spent a great deal of money and they dont want to scrap the project completely. Disney had no other but to tone the ride down. It was inevitable after two deaths.
pax_65
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dimebagdarrel said:
The original ride will continue, so I suppose more deaths will occur - probably about 1 in every 6 million riders if the current ratio holds up.
You can make the argument that people in poor health who might unwisely choose to ride MS can now opt for the tamer version (and therefore avoid injury/death), but there's two things wrong with that logic. First, you're assuming those people would be wise enough to choose the tamer version. If they rode the original ride before, why wouldn't they ride it now?
In addition, the biggest threat to MS riders is undiagnosed problems that the rider himself isn't aware of, such as a hereditary heart condition or weakness in an artery in the brain or something. If that person enjoys thrill rides, they are still going to ride the original MS ride because they don't know there's a reason why they shouldn't.
Ultimately this is a smart public relations move by Disney. You already have the choice to ride or not ride. Now you have the choice to ride a tamer version. So you have 3 choices. It gives Disney more of a defense - if a person with a prior health condition makes the decision to ride the original MS when they had 2 other alternatives, then they are responsible for the outcome.
As for the ride itself, until an otherwise healthy person dies from the effects of the ride (which hasn't happened yet) there's no way you can say MS is unsafe.
Jon
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dimebagdarrel said:
You dont seem to be understanding what is happening here. The original ride is remaining unchanged. I will repeat that for you, NOTHING IS BEING CHANGED WITH THE ORIGINAL RIDE. NOTHING IS BEING TONED DOWN. The only thing that is happening is there will be an alternate version for those who cannot ride the original version.
Punkss
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maxime29 said:
Not to mention the rather dangerous activity of going for a walk in the heat in the park, going swimming at a waterpark. And lest us not forget the rather dangerous activity flying there.
I think some people have not realised the true danger of everything they do, a theme park is safe otherwise they would all be shut down.
Punkss said:
You have to remember that people develop selective common sense when it comes to this. They ignore dangers such as driving, and yet call MS the most evil thing in the world. Its absolutely ridiculous. This however is the world we live in. People are irrational.
Timmay
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wdwmagic said:
It also has to do with what people see as acceptable risks...I know I may die in a plane crash, but the risk involved is acceptable to me for many reasons...same as driving a car across country or even to the corner store.
For some reason, there is this concept that there are no risks involved while on vacation at WDW and I simply do not understand this thought process. So when a ride makes you sick in this magical place, for some reason it is unacceptable.
Timmay said:
Agreed, its most strange. A poster earlier was saying how he would never take his family on MS. However, it can be statistically proven that they are safer on MS than in a car, a bus, or even in their own home. These are facts, and not opinions, and yet people still take the irrational view.
pax_65
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Timmay said:
One of the magical things about WDW is that you feel so safe and secure in the parks. That's a good thing. But that doesn't mean you can abandon all common sense. If the sign says "Don't ride if you have a heart condition", then don't ride if you have a heart condition. Simple.
I believe I heard a while back that the most dangerous ride in terms of injuries/deaths over the years is the Tomorrowland Transit Authority! Obviously it's a tame ride, but people get hurt/killed because they try to jump from one car to another and do other stupid stuff.
No ride can be 100% safe, especially when the people riding make poor decisions.
Timmay
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pax_65 said:
But that is a misconception, at least to me. I understand that the reason for vacations is to "get away from it all", but people should be aware of their surroundings and possible risks at all times , regardless of their location. We should always keep in mind there are risks involved with most of the things we do, even while on vacation.
Sorry, drifting off topic a bit there.
Captain Chaos
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I think another thing a lot of you are missing is that people don't want to be spending their vacation puking...
I feel safer in my car than in a plane, although the odds of getting killed in a car accident is greater... But, that is just me.. Flying makes me nervous... Driving doesn't... But, this doesn't have anything to do with me liking or not liking M:S or feeling safe or not on M:S.. I did not like the ride for the feeling it gave me... Plus, i did not think it was all that great.. it may be a technological cutting edge ride, but, I IMO it was poorly done... But, that is my opinion, just as you guys love it and think it is the best ride in WDW...
And I do agree that people do have a false sense of security in WDW, but Disney makes you believe they care about your safety, so why wouldn't someone feel like they would be safe on any Disney ride??
I feel safer in my car than in a plane, although the odds of getting killed in a car accident is greater... But, that is just me.. Flying makes me nervous... Driving doesn't... But, this doesn't have anything to do with me liking or not liking M:S or feeling safe or not on M:S.. I did not like the ride for the feeling it gave me... Plus, i did not think it was all that great.. it may be a technological cutting edge ride, but, I IMO it was poorly done... But, that is my opinion, just as you guys love it and think it is the best ride in WDW...
And I do agree that people do have a false sense of security in WDW, but Disney makes you believe they care about your safety, so why wouldn't someone feel like they would be safe on any Disney ride??
Captain Chaos
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Timmay said:
While I do agree we all should be aware of our surroundings, it is those surroundings in Disney that makes us feel safe and immune from danger in WDW. Stupid, I know, but that is the reality... We go to get away from real life and into fantasy.. And no one gets hurt or killed in fantasy... And Disney always says GUEST SAFETY FIRST, THEN SHOW..
pax_65
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dxer07002 said:
If MS makes you feel sick, then don't ride MS! YOU have the power to make the right decision for yourself on what to ride, and it sounds like you're doing just that. If everyone made such good decisions, there would be much fewer problems with people getting sick, injured and even killed on rides.
Just keep in mind... just because you don't like MS doesn't mean others can't totally enjoy it. I love thrill rides and feel no adverse effects from riding. I find the execution of the ride to be unique, exciting and fun. I've never ridden another ride like it.
I understand why Disney is trying a toned-down version, but I'd have to think that would be a really lame experience. Does anyone remember the old "Mission to Mars" ride (located where Stitch is now). You sit in a circle and the floor vibrates, which indicates you are enroute to mars. Whoo-hoo!!!
Captain Chaos
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pax_65 said:
And if you don't want to ride the lite version, don't... I mean really, why complain about this move.. Disney knows they have a ride that didn't live up to the hype, maybe because it made a lot of people sick, and now, they are doing the right thing by trying to bring bodies into the ride... I don't see why this is a bad thing.. If you want to ride the "thrill" part of it, you have the CHOICE to ride it... Correct?? So stop complaining and give this a chance.. Geez.. they aren't tearing out your beloved M:S...
And Pax, keep in mind, that maybe others want to ride M:S too, but because of the nausea factor, they are afraid to because they don't want to risk getting sick.. This gives them the option now to ride M:S without fear of throwing up.. So, what makes you almighty that you can enjoy M:S and others who don't want to spend their day puking can't??
Oh, and let me add one more thing here.. I rode M:S and did not get sick from it... I choose not to ride because I think the ride sucks....
Epcot82Guy
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pax_65 said:
Actually, the Mission to Mars argument works against you. The problem I am seeing with every one of these anti-no-G arguments is that these individuals would not want to ride. As long as it is marketed correctly, this basically could be like a better Mission to Mars. I am a HUGE thirll seeker, and I will line right up for the full version, but there are many people stuck with the decision to either not ride at all or to take the full experience. However, there is a large group that enjoyed Mission to Mars (whch I did, too, incidentally) but that could absolutely not handle M:S. This gives them an option, then. Now, I fully agree that they need to up the tumbling and on-arm spinning. Otherwise it will not be successful as an attraction, and I have faith they will do their best to include this. I also think having minimal motion if that is possible would be a good thing (think the speed tunnels in WoM and IYHW - a little forward motion helps the effect IMHO). This is not meant to go to Thrill Seekers at all. It is meant to go to people that are not thrill seekers that don't want to miss a great attraction entirely but can't handle the full thing. I really don't think anyone going on the No-G version will expect it to be amazing. They are copping out in a way and will likely just be happy they got to ride at all.