Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

Buried20KLeague

Well-Known Member
Bummer, because the recent shorts are actually pretty funny and some of the earlier gross imagery has been toned down. Really love the Christmas and Halloween special from last year the most.

I'll check them out.

I saw the first handful and felt like I was watching Ren and Stimpy (as I've said a handful of times), so didn't really search the rest out.

I'm glad they maybe moved away from that a little bit. That would be a move in the right direction, IMO.
 

smile

Well-Known Member
Posting sanitized versions of historical Mickeys

maybe that's because mickey was continually sanitized, by walt, away from the crude early versions, so that he didn't eventually come out looking like john k in flash on ambien

changing his face from white to white could have been addressed without aping someone else's art for the icon of a company that's supposed to define creativity

not that the attraction won't work, but it's bob's mickey, not walt's... and that's gonna throw some folks

#getmorelegacy
 

TJJohn12

Well-Known Member
I think not ever. The phone zombie generation by and large has zero interest in old movies and like it or not that is who Disney must bow and scrape to now.

So I don't think I've shared this before. The last time I rode GMR - which was my wife's first time - a woman was literally changing her child's diaper two rows ahead of us for a good portion of the lead-up to the Gangster scene. That's indicative to me that the old ride was in fact broken.

The best products of imagineering aren't purely consumptive experiences. If you read Marty Sklar's couple of works of imagineering philosophy, it's clear that what powers forward the best experiences is putting the guest at the center of the experience - they are the main character. The ghost will follow you home. It's not just Brer Rabbit who gets tossed off Chickapin Hill, you do too. It's your car - and not those other tourists - who are asked to bring a dinosaur back with them. Mr. Toad's not driving this car, you are on a wild ride yourself through his world. "You are the passengers on a most uncommon elevator about to ascend into your very own episode of… The Twilight Zone."

GMR was almost solely consumptive - you literally were watching someone else interact with the movies - which might have worked then because very few other places in our culture at that moment reinforced the idea of self as main character. Since 1989, our entire culture has shifted so far away from the consumptive toward the experiential. You're right - the newer generation of entertainment consumers are craving something different. But that different is in fact what Disney does best - putting guests at the center of the narrative.
 

phillip9698

Well-Known Member
Ha! Pick and choose, much?

Why, when you were choosing a pic of Mickey from the new shorts, didn't you choose something more like this:

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Because that would have gone directly against your point they don't look much different. Or how about this hot mess:

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Goofy is HORRIBLE.

The art I posted above isn't TIMELESS. It's trendy. It's a mistake. The shorts are fine. But they could have easily happened with the characters we already know. I didn't need a Ren and Stimpy version. And for this to be what Mickey gets in the first park attraction dedicated to him is crazytown. Completely nuts.

The art in this ride won't age well. It will end up being DHS's version of Ellen's Energy Adventure. IMO.

SpongeBob and Ren and Stimpy before it disagree and proves that there is a sustained audience for it.
 

MuteSuperstar

Well-Known Member
The best products of imagineering aren't purely consumptive experiences. If you read Marty Sklar's couple of works of imagineering philosophy, it's clear that what powers forward the best experiences is putting the guest at the center of the experience - they are the main character. The ghost will follow you home. It's not just Brer Rabbit who gets tossed off Chickapin Hill, you do too. It's your car - and not those other tourists - who are asked to bring a dinosaur back with them. Mr. Toad's not driving this car, you are on a wild ride yourself through his world. "You are the passengers on a most uncommon elevator about to ascend into your very own episode of… The Twilight Zone."

Thought-provoking post. And more confirmation that I am so very at odds with many aspects of our current culture. Sure I love all of those but I love COP, IASW, the Circlevision films, Tiki Room, Peoplemover, IDF, LWTL etc as much or more. I was always well aware of the clunky aspects of GMR and it wasn't in my top 10 or anything, but I always admired the effort. And nostalgia is bigger than ever for me, I bathe and bask in it. For all of the undeniably incredible things technology has given us, I absolutely despise a lot of what it is turning us into. Strange days. I mean if I see one more soccer mom (or the occasional dad) careening down the road balancing her phone on the steering wheel or FACETIMING....I just don't have words to express the anger.

But ummm... back to the topic, I hope MMRR is a worthwhile replacement for a flawed classic that I would have rather seen plussed.
 
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marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
So I don't think I've shared this before. The last time I rode GMR - which was my wife's first time - a woman was literally changing her child's diaper two rows ahead of us for a good portion of the lead-up to the Gangster scene. That's indicative to me that the old ride was in fact broken..
People go on the WEDWay to sleep. Should that be closed too due to guests being brain challenged?
 

Missing20K

Well-Known Member
a woman was literally changing her child's diaper two rows ahead of us for a good portion of the lead-up to the Gangster scene. That's indicative to me that the old ride was in fact broken.
People go on the WEDWay to sleep. Should that be closed too due to guests being brain challenged?

Eh, if it was bad enough she felt the need to change it mid-ride, regardless of what was happening on the ride around her, it must have been bad enough that I would have been thanking her so I didn't have the scent wafting two rows back to me and my sensitive nose.

And sleeping on the WEDWay is a time-honored WDW tradition. At least in my family. I've ridden it twice in a row, first time to experience the sets, the second to snooze.
 

HauntedMansion513

Active Member
People go on the WEDWay to sleep. Should that be closed too due to guests being brain challenged?
I don't have the luxury of going to WDW as often as many of you. I've only been there on 2 full trips, and 1 half trip where I went to Magic Kingdom and Epcot only. But GMR was a ride I remembered from my childhood, riding it at 8 years old. Disney-MGM instilled a love of movies and movie making in me, that the current park could never do. I still enjoyed my most recent visit to the park (more than 16 years after my first), but it definitely wasn't what made an impression on me when I was younger. So while some older and younger people are incapable of truly appreciating what was once a great park, it doesn't mean we should kill the park for their enjoyment. I will really miss the long E-ticket experiences that used to exist as we move to 4 or less minute rides. Big emphasis on the words "experience" and "ride".

Edit: Sorry, to keep things on topic, I'm even more excited for this ride after this new concept art. Hope it's a good mix of physical sets, to compliment the practical stuff.
 

brb1006

Well-Known Member
Oh I miss the time where I thought this ride was about ‘mickey through the years’, starting at steamboat willy and somewhere that epic sorcerer mickey water scene in the style of Mystic Manors climax scene.. :arghh:
While I am excited for Runaway Railway. I am so bummed out that we won't get to a very amazing sequence like that into an attraction. That would had been the best us of the LPS system.

Put a giant mountain rock in the middle with Mickey and you would have a great visual experience complete with water spraying effects on various riders.
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Buried20KLeague

Well-Known Member
Oh you mean how Goofy looks pretty close to how he originally looked.
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I guess you're calling Walt's design horrible...


You pulled a picture of him from 1932. He was changed to VERY close to what he looks like today in 1935. I would say that means Walt called his OWN design horrible.

The fact is that you weren't alive in 1932 when he looked like this. VERY FEW people were. Which means basically nobody is even remotely familiar with his original design that was changed within 3 years of his creation. To point to that as a justification for changing somewhere in the neighborhood of an 83 year design is simply you arguing for the sake of arguing and reaching as far as you need to in order to do so. I've got 83ish years of Disney history backing my stance.
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
You pulled a picture of him from 1932. He was changed to VERY close to what he looks like today in 1935. I would say that means Walt called his OWN design horrible.

The fact is that you weren't alive in 1932 when he looked like this. VERY FEW people were. Which means basically nobody is even remotely familiar with his original design that was changed within 3 years of his creation. To point to that as a justification for changing somewhere in the neighborhood of an 83 year design is simply you arguing for the sake of arguing and reaching as far as you need to do to so. I've got 83ish years of Disney history backing my stance.

And you just dismissed part of that history to make your point that you got history as your proof.

Come back when you start making sense.
 

Timothy_Q

Well-Known Member
It's so funny that people are so offended by Disney giving mickey a personality again after 60 years of being a bland corporate mascot.
They're so used to Mickey having no depth of character.

Mickey did some messed up stuff in his early shorts in the 20's and 30's.
He throws Minnie out of a plane for not kissing him in Plane Crazy.
And Steamboat Willie is basically about torturing animals to create music (which btw would fit perfectly in a Ren and Stimpy episode)

People should be offended by Mickey being represented like this:

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Not like this:

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Disney Analyst

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It's so funny that people are so offended by Disney giving mickey a personality again after 60 years of being a bland corporate mascot.
They're so used to Mickey having no depth of character.

Mickey did some stuff in his early shorts in the 20's and 30's.
He throws Minnie out of a plane for not kissing him in Plane Crazy.
And Steamboat Willie is basically torturing animals to create music (which btw would fit perfectly in a Ren and Stimpy episode)

People should be offended by Mickey being represented like this:

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Not like this:

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Agreed. Honestly this is my most anticipated attraction coming, even over Star Wars. I adore the shorts, and to be immersed in that world? I'm so in.
 
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