Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway SPOILER Thread

Brer Oswald

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Peter Pan is a C.
Pan was designed as a D. It has C tech by today’s standards, but E wait time. The average is a D.

But that’s why I find using the ticket debates for anything worth less than E is kinda pointless. We all agree on what the E’s are, but after that, it’s open to opinion.
 

Brer Oswald

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An imagineer said there'd be a "B story." Then they introduced Chuuby, which made some think Chuuby was the "B Story", but Chuuby just adds to the singing in the opening and closing scenes.

I guessed it was Pluto chasing the basket since he's featured on the poster with the basket. There are a few scenes with Pluto and the basket, which makes me think that that was the B Story... though, a very weak one since there are too many scenes in which he doesn't appear, and when he does appear, there isn't much going on. I would have expected seeing him being more actively chased by critters wanting the basket and Pluto more actively chasing the basket.
There’s some deal with Donald losing his Hotdog sign? He shows up in the Carnival scene at the hotdog stand, and then shows up in the city later, P’d off, looking for the sign.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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There’s some deal with Donald losing his Hotdog sign? He shows up in the Carnival scene at the hotdog stand, and then shows up in the city later, P’d off, looking for the sign.

In the city he's in a tutu delivery truck. So, he's on the way to deliver them to Daisy's dance studio.

If you look at the video of the carnival scene, his hot dog stand doesn't even have a sign that goes missing, although M&M come riding in on the sign. Donald seems unconcerned about any missing sign or M&M riding his sign.
 

Donaldfan1934

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Pssh..Not like they were doing that in Roger Rabbit's Car-Toon Spin..
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The difference here is context. In Roger Rabbit’s Car-Toon spin, the weasels are the clear antagonists as they were in the film, so it’s completely in character For them to do something like this. In MMRR, Pluto getting kicked by Minnie and then locked in the trunk may be consistent with how she’s portrayed in the Disney Channel shorts, but those who aren’t as familiar with that specific adaptation may find it out of character with most other iterations of the character.
 

Brer Oswald

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In the city he's in a tutu delivery truck. So, he's on the way to deliver them to Daisy's dance studio.

If you look at the video of the carnival scene, his hot dog stand doesn't even have a sign that goes missing, although M&M come riding in on the sign. Donald seems unconcerned about any missing sign or M&M riding his sign.
It was specifically stated somewhere.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
The difference here is context. In Roger Rabbit’s Car-Toon spin, the weasels are the clear antagonists as they were in the film, so it’s completely in character For them to do something like this. In MMRR, Pluto getting kicked by Minnie and then locked in the trunk may be consistent with how she’s portrayed in the Disney Channel shorts, but those who aren’t as familiar with that specific adaptation may find it out of character with most other iterations of the character.

How can you speak of "context" for RR and then ignore the context in MMRR by saying Minnie *kicked* Pluto. You know darn well that the context isn't that she *kicked* him.

But good try at rallying the villagers to grab their pitchforks and torches!
 

Brer Oswald

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@MisterPenguin Found it. From what it looks like, each character has their own “story”. By story, it’s more like a specific scenario unrelated to the main goal of trying to get the train under control. Unless I’m missing something and the Bird has a lot more to him than the other characters.
 

Lirael

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From the videos everything looks gorgeous and great... except the AA. The Daisy one is perfect, but the Mickey and Minnie ones look really off for me. Their balloon heads are weirdly proportioned and you can see they're not a part of the rest of the set, and not in a good way.

Other than that, can't wait to ride it. And personally GMR was a nice ride but was one of those "I'm going to ride this to rest my feet and get away from the elements" ride so I can't really feel anything towards its demise for this.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
From what I can tell, the B Story they were referring to is either Donald and the sign, or Pluto and the picnic basket. The only reason I’m leaning towards Donald is because it isn’t at all related to Mickey and Minnie.

The bird sings in the park. That’s all there is to him.

That carnival scene starts with Donald's hot dog stand sign already gone -- the broken posts are still there on top. Then M&M come floating in sitting on it (held up by balloons).

I'd be willing to guess that at some point in the development of the ride, there was something to the scene that showed the sign being removed, but got cut.

There are a lot of inexplicable things happening... which is typical for the Mickey Shorts. It's like a dream where things just happen without any causality, just loose connections.
 

Brer Oswald

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That carnival scene starts with Donald's hot dog stand sign already gone -- the broken posts are still there on top. Then M&M come floating in sitting on it (held up by balloons).

I'd be willing to guess that at some point in the development of the ride, there was something to the scene that showed the sign being removed, but got cut.

There are a lot of inexplicable things happening... which is typical for the Mickey Shorts. It's like a dream where things just happen without any causality, just loose connections.
I know that. And you’re probably right, it likely was something that was cut. But Donald and Pluto are the only characters (aside from the titular two main characters) that appear more than once during the Adventure. The B Story is probably Pluto, for as lame as that may be.

Chuuby stays in the park. The article that introduced him was the same one that talked about the B plot, which is where the confusion came from.
 

britain

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That carnival scene starts with Donald's hot dog stand sign already gone -- the broken posts are still there on top. Then M&M come floating in sitting on it (held up by balloons).

I'd be willing to guess that at some point in the development of the ride, there was something to the scene that showed the sign being removed, but got cut.

There are a lot of inexplicable things happening... which is typical for the Mickey Shorts. It's like a dream where things just happen without any causality, just loose connections.

Good observation there, I didn't even realize that was happening.

Maybe it was more obvious that there's an arm removing them from the roof rather than have them fly in. Or maybe Mick & Min were too visible while the western scene was still going on for the last cars.
 

Brer Oswald

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Good observation there, I didn't even realize that was happening.

Maybe it was more obvious that there's an arm removing them from the roof rather than have them fly in. Or maybe Mick & Min were too visible while the western scene was still going on for the last cars.
The only reason I noticed it myself was because I had read the blurb from parks blog.
 

Donaldfan1934

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How can you speak of "context" for RR and then ignore the context in MMRR by saying Minnie *kicked* Pluto. You know darn well that the context isn't that she *kicked* him.

But good try at rallying the villagers to grab their pitchforks and torches!
Did you watch the same pre show film? Sure as well looks like she kicked him into the trunk, then the picnic basket on him and shut the trunk on him by sitting on it. She may have done it by accident, but the ignorance of it all still can be perceived a bit out of character for Minnie.

Also, I had no intention of starting a rallying cry. I only wanted to give some perspective on why someone may have been bothered by Pluto getting locked in the trunk and not Jessica.
 

ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ

HOUSE OF MAGIC
Premium Member
Cool ride!

But I still wish the Imagineers had gone to the trouble of making FULL 3D constructions of the AA heads. The smashed-sideways look is weird and off-putting (did they HAVE to strive so hard to achieve the look of the cartoons? That look only works in the CARTOONS.) As it is, the only AA that looks good is Daisy. If you look at the other AAs in any other way but in front they look dreadful. Bummer.

Yes!
For the most part the imagineers purposefully chose a front view vantage point on the AAs so any off perspectives would be limited. It works but it's bordering on "uncanny valley" territory. Take Pete for example... That character would look MUCH better with a 3D formed face. He looks terrible as we approach that scene.

From the videos everything looks gorgeous and great... except the AA. The Daisy one is perfect, but the Mickey and Minnie ones look really off for me. Their balloon heads are weirdly proportioned and you can see they're not a part of the rest of the set, and not in a good way.

Other than that, can't wait to ride it. And personally GMR was a nice ride but was one of those "I'm going to ride this to rest my feet and get away from the elements" ride so I can't really feel anything towards its demise for this.

What get's me is the facial animations aren't so extreme that the more traditional 3D form AAs couldn't be used. The only reason they're 2D ish is to satisfy the visual style but it's not like exceptions couldn't be made. (They are! Pluto and Daisy) The AAs would look just as good if not better with only the eyes and mouths projected. While I don't see them changing it anytime soon (or at all) I definitely think it'd read better if they were designed more like the Dwarf AAs.
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Did you watch the same pre show film? Sure as well looks like she kicked him into the trunk, then the picnic basket on him and shut the trunk on him by sitting on it. She may have done it by accident, but the ignorance of it all still can be perceived a bit out of character for Minnie.

Also, I had no intention of starting a rallying cry. I only wanted to give some perspective on why someone may have been bothered by Pluto getting locked in the trunk and not Jessica.


People know the difference between "kicking the dog" and "accidentally kicking the dog." The non-use of "accidental" changes the context completely.
 

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