MiceAge on the latest news regarding MyMagic+ : Read it and weep.

[danlb_2000]

This is getting laughable....well all I can say is stay home and be safe....(might want to get rid of your cell phone, definitely get offline, and move to a cave in a third world)....I'll be in the parks having fun with my family

I don't recall any place in this thread where the security risks of cell phone and internet use were being discussed, maybe I missed it? This is a Disney Parks board, thus the discussion of data security at Disney. I find it very unlikely that the people who are concerned about the security of their data at Disney aren't also concerned about it in these other places, but a Disney message board is not a appropriate place for those discussions.

 

[GoofGoof]

This is getting laughable....well all I can say is stay home and be safe....(might want to get rid of your cell phone, definitely get offline, and move to a cave in a third world)....I'll be in the parks having fun with my family

So you are just going to take your ball and go home. It's OK for people to have different opinions. This place would be pretty boring if we all agreed on everything.

I have plenty of fun with my family in the parks. I used the bands and had very few issues with them. I just find certain aspects of the new system to be flawed and IMHO there are easy fixes to address some of them.

 

[danlb_2000]

GR would be a place where I would assume they had and needed FULL access to my guest profile so they COULD help me and in the past only GR and Hotel staff had Full access.

A MM+ attendant, a turnstile staffer the roaming iPad brigade only needs Name, Ticket entitlement and FP+ information but now all that data is scattered from here to h--l and back.

Again, it's a fine line. What if a guest goes to use their Fastpass at HM and it doesn't work. It might be useful for the CM there to see that the reason is didn't work is that the Fastpass was actually for Pirates not HM. Security is never an absolute, there is always a trade off between security and efficiency/usability.

 

[CDavid]

Then don't go, get rid of your cell phone, internet connection, and live in a cave in tora bora....it's the world we live in now everywhere. Disney had/has plenty of access to our info before mm+

That doesn't solve the problem, it just avoids it (rather poorly), and consider just what you are asking people to give up to protect their own expectations of privacy. Is that really a reasonable solution?

Wouldn't it be so much more productive if, when we have a problem with something or see something that just isn't right, we speak up and make our objections known. People are far, far too willing anymore to just accept things as they are. In addition to relating to The Walt Disney Company directly, if only there was somewhere online - some kind of forum or message board maybe - where we could discuss Disney park related matters...

If your grievances still aren't addressed, then its up to you whether to give the company any more of your money or how to proceed. Should you feel it necessary I would think perhaps paying in cash and taking a RFID card instead of a band (not a perfect remedy, granted) might be a bit more reasonable than giving up on the modern world altogether.

 

[WDWDad13]

I don't recall any place in this thread where the security risks of cell phone and internet use were being discussed, maybe I missed it? This is a Disney Parks board, thus the discussion of data security at Disney. I find it very unlikely that the people who are concerned about the security of their data at Disney aren't also concerned about it in these other places, but a Disney message board is not a appropriate place for those discussions.

If we were worried about things staying on topic, well, we wouldn't have half of this mess on these boards

 

[WDWDad13]

So you are just going to take your ball and go home. It's OK for people to have different opinions. This place would be pretty boring if we all agreed on everything.

I have plenty of fun with my family in the parks. I used the bands and had very few issues with them. I just find certain aspects of the new system to be flawed and IMHO there are easy fixes to address some of them.

Na I'm not going anywhere....except to Disney world in a week from now to have a great time. Oh geez I shouldn't have said that. Now someone on these boards now knows I won't be home and will rob me blind....I blame Disney and MM+

 

[WDWDad13]

That doesn't solve the problem, it just avoids it (rather poorly), and consider just what you are asking people to give up to protect their own expectations of privacy. Is that really a reasonable solution?

Wouldn't it be so much more productive if, when we have a problem with something or see something that just isn't right, we speak up and make our objections known. People are far, far too willing anymore to just accept things as they are. In addition to relating to The Walt Disney Company directly, if only there was somewhere online - some kind of forum or message board maybe - where we could discuss Disney park related matters...

If your grievances still aren't addressed, then its up to you whether to give the company any more of your money or how to proceed. Should you feel it necessary I would think perhaps paying in cash and taking a RFID card instead of a band (not a perfect remedy, granted) might be a bit more reasonable than giving up on the modern world altogether.

Hey don't get me wrong....I don't LIKE any of this stuff that happens all around us but...welcome to the 21st century

 

[danlb_2000]

Hey don't get me wrong....I don't LIKE any of this stuff that happens all around us but...welcome to the 21st century

Attitudes like this is what allows these things to persist and multiply. Sadly more people probably feel the way you do, then not.

 

[WDWDad13]

Attitudes like this is what allows these things to persist and multiply. Sadly more people probably feel the way you do, then not.

lol ok so you suggest we do what? This stuff globally is all over the news (way beyond Disney)

 

[danlb_2000]

WOW stretch

Not a stretch at all:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...cdonalds-cashier-accused-of-stealing-c/nWCFZ/

http://tbo.com/news/man-accused-of-stealing-credit-card-numbers-89077

http://tbo.com/news/cashier--others-arrested-for-using-stolen-credit-card-numbers-53375

 

[ford91exploder]

Again, it's a fine line. What if a guest goes to use their Fastpass at HM and it doesn't work. It might be useful for the CM there to see that the reason is didn't work is that the Fastpass was actually for Pirates not HM. Security is never an absolute, there is always a trade off between security and efficiency/usability.

I mentioned in OP that frontline CM's SHOULD be able to see FP+ information - they need it after all so they can help you, They don't need anything else though. Restaurants should be able to see Dining related information, but not FP+ entitlements.

 

[WDWDad13]

Not a stretch at all:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...cdonalds-cashier-accused-of-stealing-c/nWCFZ/

http://tbo.com/news/man-accused-of-stealing-credit-card-numbers-89077

http://tbo.com/news/cashier--others-arrested-for-using-stolen-credit-card-numbers-53375

Haha thanks for proving my point which is what is keeping them from doing this today?!?! Contrary to popular belief the little rubber magic bands aren't armageddon

 

[danlb_2000]

Haha thanks for proving my point which is what is keeping them from doing this today?!?! Contrary to popular belief the little rubber magic bands aren't armageddon

No, but they have the potential to make things worse.

 

[WDWDad13]

No, but they have the potential to make things worse.

Of course they do

It's also possible to make them better but that would never be discussed here lol

 

[Clever Name]

Since you are so unconcerned I recommend that you post your name, SSN, CC#, Income, Employer, DOB, Mothers maiden name, Address and all phone numbers on a internet accessible bulletin board somewhere in Bulgaria and watch the goodness flow.

LifeLock CEO’s Identity Stolen 13 Times http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/05/lifelock-identity-theft/

 

[WDWDad13]

I GUARANTEE that more people lose their credit cards today in Disney world and have them used by someone else then will EVER be subjected to criminal acts by Disney CM accessing information on a rubber wrist band

a magic band with credit card info on it, no one can use it without a pin....so this is a positive right or are we not allowed to discuss that?

 

[GoofGoof]

Haha thanks for proving my point which is what is keeping them from doing this today?!?! Contrary to popular belief the little rubber magic bands aren't armageddon

No one is saying they are Armageddon. You just choose to hear it that way. As much as you may personally not care there are many who have some degree of concerns.

 

[Mammymouse]

THIS was the biggest loss incurred by NGE/MM+ Before Disney was a happy place where you could be a kid again with your family, The real world was left at the gates of Disney for a while and you could share a happy time with your family without worries.

Now the real world has intruded big time into Disney and the experience has been severely impacted because of it, If someone had told me 3 years ago that I would be worrying about data security at Disney I would have said they were insane. Turns out they were prophetic - very sad and the world grows a little more grey because of it.

That's why I said in a previous post that to me wearing the magic band is a constant glaring reminder of all this. Also didn't Mr. Iger have to go before Congress to testify about all this privacy, etc. because it involved minors using the system? I believe it was a Mass. Congressman doing the questioning.

 

[WDWDad13]

That's why I said in a previous post that to me wearing the magic band is a constant glaring reminder of all this. Also didn't Mr. Iger have to go before Congress to testify about all this privacy, etc. because it involved minors using the system? I believe it was a Mass. Congressman doing the questioning.

And we all know how much the government cares about data mining lol. That was just a PR stunt anyways

 

[flyerjab]

I stopped worrying about the confidentiality of personal information after seeing Spielberg's Minority Report. The advertising concepts in that movie (personalized advertisements based off of individual purchasing habits/patterns) was a true concept being considered at the time via think tanks. And viola! Magic bands!

Seriously though, once this had become an "official" launch, would TWDC be required to publish how the data will be used? Is that a requirement by law? It sounds like it should be.

I have unfortunately succumbed to the fact that most personal information in the future will be obtainable because of the devious nature inherent in most IT technologies. Probably the only way to maintain some degree of privacy will be to buy a certain amount of privacy. Congrats to the top 1%!