Skippy's Pal
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Agreed. Perhaps the person who wrote this moonlights at the Cincinnati office of the IRS.
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Merida's New Look
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Agreed. Perhaps the person who wrote this moonlights at the Cincinnati office of the IRS.
From a product design perspective, the princesses have to have the same figure because they're all made out of the same molds.
Monkee Girl
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It's all about the character's integrity to me. sure there are gray areas but for the most part, the most important part of a character is what we know about them. Especially for characters as long running as Snow White, Cinderella, and Sleeping Beauty. When Disney changes the characters, it waters them down and takes a piece of their spirit away.
Sure it's ok to advertise a certain look for a 'limited time,' I often mention how I liked the gold look the princesses took a few years ago. But that went away. It wasn't a permanent fixture. These new looks are 'for good' from what I understand. Proven by the fact that they actually changed their long standing meet and greet characters to these horrid looks.
Ugh, I have so much to say on this topic. you don't know how bad I keep changing my posts to try and cut them down. I just need to start a blog or something, lol
Sure it's ok to advertise a certain look for a 'limited time,' I often mention how I liked the gold look the princesses took a few years ago. But that went away. It wasn't a permanent fixture. These new looks are 'for good' from what I understand. Proven by the fact that they actually changed their long standing meet and greet characters to these horrid looks.
Ugh, I have so much to say on this topic. you don't know how bad I keep changing my posts to try and cut them down. I just need to start a blog or something, lol
Monkee Girl
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I hate merchandising sometimes. If that is the case, why don't they just design the characters to originally fit the molds? Why bother making an original unique character if all they are going to do is change her?
Changing the look of the meet and greet characters? Who notices this stuff? There's always going to be some translation. A face character will never look exactly like hand drawn animation, which will never match computer animation, which will never match a Barbie doll, which will never match a stuffed plush. There's no way to make a human being look exactly like the animated Cinderella. Just ain't gonna happen.
They're animated in different aesthetics. It's like a Vinlymation. If you're trying to fit an Eeyore into a Vinylmation, you're going to have to do something about the ears, head, and body shapes.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
The LAST thing you want is the marketing department designing characters.
Monkee Girl
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Exactly. Merida is a very young 16 where as Aurora is a very mature 16 in both beauty and manners. To try and conform Merida to that just doesn't work. Making her older feels very forced to me. This is the same girl who comes running through the palace halls with an apple in her mouth. Now she is poised and bedazzled. She is probably hating every single moment of it. As for the curves, looks like her mom put a little extra effort in that corset. Poor girl.
Monkee Girl
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They already are. It's called "Princess Redesigns"
It's going very well amongst the fans....
Um. Yes. It is.They already are. It's called "Princess Redesigns"
It's going very well amongst the fans....
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennago...f-the-20-best-selling-entertainment-products/
Monkee Girl
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Changing the look of the meet and greet characters? Who notices this stuff? There's always going to be some translation. A face character will never look exactly like hand drawn animation, which will never match computer animation, which will never match a Barbie doll, which will never match a stuffed plush. There's no way to make a human being look exactly like the animated Cinderella. Just ain't gonna happen.
I notice that stuff. And so do a lot of other people.
No it's not going to happen, and most people understand that, including me. However, there is a difference between trying to make them look as close as possible and completely altering their entire look. Cinderella with side swept bangs looking like some prom reject and flattening Aurora's hair taking away what little character she had left is not my idea of capturing their look.
Monkee Girl
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I could be wrong, correct me if I am ...bit this article is dated 2012 with the statistics from 2011 which were before the redesigns...no?
(Off topic: Thanks for having an honest disagreement and staying civil, unlike my friends in some of this evening's more heated threads.)
My honest opinion of your post, from a strictly business perspective, is that the ONLY people who notice the things that you notice are the top 0.01% of Disney fanatics. This forum is what, 0.1% of WDW guests? Probably less. Of us, I bet you're among roughly 10% who ever noticed that Cinderella now has "side swept bangs." I don't even know what that means. Frankly, there's no reason for them to try to please you to that level of detail because folks who love Disney enough to notice those things are people who are going to continue to follow and support the brand regardless. If it's easier/cheaper/more marketable to change some features to please the masses, they'll make that trade every time, even if they have to step on the toes of the most hardcore. The most hardcore will always be loyal.
It's the most recent info I had with a quick search but my main point wasn't "the redesigns are good" but that "marketing and consumer products know what they're doing."
Clever Name
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She's the female Carrot-Top. I like her new plastic surgery.
AllyInWonderland
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WHAT???!!!!! Nuh-uh!!!!!!!!
Furrealz.WHAT???!!!!! Nuh-uh!!!!!!!!
Monkee Girl
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I understand what you are saying. The problem is Disney thinks a different way then I do. Here is how I think as a consumer. I could be the only one, but this is just my opinion:
I am a hard core Disney fan. I have loved the princesses since I was a child. Aurora was my favorite and I called her 'Sleeping Beauty' before we even knew her name. She wore a blue dress and I still have my original doll with her featured in it. The pink was the secondary color.
So...here I am, 31 and still in love with Disney. I go every year. I spend close to 2,000 to 3,000 dollars every year on just Disney trips. I am going again in October after just coming back in April. So I am a repeat customer. When we go, we stay at the Polynesian Resort. I would think Disney would prefer my business to a family that could only afford to go every 3-5 years. If they choose Disney at all.
Also on that note. When we, as fans, wear a shirt, or carry a bag or sport any other merchandise, we are giving Disney free advertising. I am more than happy to give Disney free advertising because I love them and want to show my support. However, I, as a customer, do not like their new product. Because of this, I will not buy the product. I can't remember the last time I bought a doll, or card, or bag, or shirt, or anything princess related when I use to a lot. For the Disney Halloween Party, I was thinking of going as a princess. But the redesigns have annoyed me so much, I think I will go as something else. I haven't even gone to a princess meet and greet since Cinderella was changed. I refuse to meet her in the new look. Basically, I will not advertise the redesigns because I do not support them. It starts with little things. How soon before I am done with Disney all together. Then the repeat customer becomes a customer who goes somewhere else instead.
Sure, it sounds petty to many people but if we just subside and don't voice our opinions or displeasure, then we might as well not fight for anything. What is happening with Merida shows that, as customers, we do have a right to have some say in what we are purchasing. Disney did wrong and if they want to keep their dolls selling, then they should listen to people. Whether they are a casual Disney fan or a hard core one. Our opinions matter.