Masks at WDW

[Goofyernmost]

LOL... This couldn't be more of a joke and over the top if you tried.... WILL SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN.... If you are so scared that you are going to die.... STAY HOME

What a pile of nonsense and self entitlement. I am thinking of all humans from children to the extreme elderly. You are just thinking of yourself and coming up with bogus "will someone think" statements in an attempt to justify your position. I have already stated more then once that I intend to stay home but it was because I don't want to have to wear a mask to stay safe from people like you that will be so certain that they know more then the experts and doing so, put others lives and health in jeopardy. Not because I am afraid I am going to die, but that I just don't want to go until people become a lot smarter and that isn't looking like it is going to happen anytime soon. One thing you can count on is that the minute that Disney or any other place is convinced that not having them is safe for everyone and therefore not give those people grounds for legal action, the mask will be gone. That said, I'm not sure why you think that I should be the one to stay home when I am willing to comply with the rules as opposed to yourself, a person unwilling to care about others. I would at that point say if you won't wear the mask.... STAY HOME!

And for someone else that stated that it was because Disney is selling their own brand of face mask, do you really think that they will sell enough of them to make up for the loss of income from the requirement to wear them?

 

[Chi84]

What about CM's? Remember these protocols and restrictions are put in place to help protect the CM's too. The ones that will be interacting with individuals from all over the country every day for the forseeable future. They actually have more to worry about than the average guest who is here for 5 days and then leaves.

As much as people want to think this is strictly about how it effects them as a guest, it's not.

The type of face coverings that are being worn won't protect a CM from contracting the virus. The only ones that will do that are the masks that are medical grade. As I understand it, the idea behind requiring masks now is that the virus is so prevalent, and the symptoms can be so mild, that a person may have it and not know it. The masks are thought (not known) to stop the larger virus particles that could come from coughing or sneezing, but they won't do anything about smaller particles that the person is just breathing into the air. The only thing that will help that is social distancing. My experience with children is that they will not be able to wear a mask correctly or for very long, so the risk from an infected child will probably be the same whether or not the child is wearing a mask.

This is all about balancing the risk, not eliminating it. CMs, like all employees who are now working with the public, are going to be at increased risk until the virus stops spreading. Face masks may or may not help if someone is infected and coughs directly on you, so at this stage they are being required at Disney and I have no problem with that. But at some point, the risk will lessen to the point - or studies may show - that face masks will not be doing all that much, especially since the protocols for wearing them (washing hands before putting one on and after taking it off and not touching the mask while it's in place) are not being followed. Some people are even recommending raising and lowering the masks between taking bites at a restaurant. I understand that, in theory, masks may help stop the spread of the virus. However, my concern is that, in practice, they are doing nothing more than giving people a false sense of security.

Clearly, others may disagree. Hopefully, they can do so respectfully and without accusing me of attempted murder. That's what the political thread is for.

 

[JohnD]

Have you bought one of these masks and do you like it? How comfortable is it compared to paper masks?

1. I bought four masks yesterday.
2. I'll be able to answer your second question at the end of the month (expect receipt approx 6/28-6-30).

 

[MissViv]

1. I bought four masks yesterday.
2. I'll be able to answer your second question at the end of the month (expect receipt approx 6/28-6-30).

Thanks!

 

[Parker in NYC]

The mask revolt is mostly keyboard warriors. I saw very little "revolting" in 3 days at Universal over the weekend.

People shouldn't think about walking into theme parks if they've already made it up in their head that they won't follow the rules.

Thankfully, I won't be there to watch it all play out.

 

[Parker in NYC]

I live in Pensacola and for phase 2 which we are now in, hairdressers no longer have to wear masks. By the time Disney opens we should be back to normal which does not include masks. However Disney have invested in producing cute masks so profit may have a lot to do with their 'rules'.

 

[Herdman]

Right, and that's also going up.

Orange County:
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Florida:
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The percenatge may very well be going up, but I'm not sure your graphic is the total picture. It says laboratory testing, but if Orange County is like our state/county, that doesn't include drive through and other mobile testing sites, just the brick and mortal labs. Looks like on a total of 86,287 people tested as a whole only 2.9% are testing positive. If it continues to stay in that range in total without a prolonged period of much higher % positives it's not a major cause of concern going forward.

 

[disneygeek90]

The percenatge may very well be going up, but I'm not sure your graphic is the total picture. It says laboratory testing, but if Orange County is like our state/county, that doesn't include drive through and other mobile testing sites, just the brick and mortal labs. Looks like on a total of 86,287 people tested as a whole only 2.9% are testing positive. If it continues to stay in that range in total without a prolonged period of much higher % positives it's not a major cause of concern going forward.

You may be right, but that information isn’t available to us as far as I know so it’s impossible to know.

 

[Herdman]

You may be right, but that information isn’t available to us as far as I know so it’s impossible to know.

Yea, you can only really just focus on that total positive percentage as a whole. You are going to have blips, you hope they are only blips, and not a week or more of 8, 10% or higher. Then you have a hot spot.

 

[Giss Neric]

Imagine all the "Karens" gathered up in one place. Poor Orange County and good luck to Disneyland. These are the type of lunatics you have to deal with...

 

[robhedin]

What a pile of nonsense and self entitlement. I am thinking of all humans from children to the extreme elderly. You are just thinking of yourself and coming up with bogus "will someone think" statements in an attempt to justify your position. I have already stated more then once that I intend to stay home but it was because I don't want to have to wear a mask to stay safe from people like you that will be so certain that they know more then the experts and doing so, put others lives and health in jeopardy. Not because I am afraid I am going to die, but that I just don't want to go until people become a lot smarter and that isn't looking like it is going to happen anytime soon. One thing you can count on is that the minute that Disney or any other place is convinced that not having them is safe for everyone and therefore not give those people grounds for legal action, the mask will be gone. That said, I'm not sure why you think that I should be the one to stay home when I am willing to comply with the rules as opposed to yourself, a person unwilling to care about others. I would at that point say if you won't wear the mask.... STAY HOME!

Just a few points here-

1) You're not wearing a mask to stay safe FROM others; you're wearing it to keep THEM somewhat safer from you.
2) I wouldn't be surprised if you're not at least somewhat correct about when Disney will remove the requirement-- Disney is all about protecting the brand.
3) Barring any mandate from the federal/state/local government, neither of you HAS to stay home, regardless of whether or not you wear a mask. Now, getting onto private property is slightly a different story- if the owner of that property sets certain rules, you're obligated to follow those rules or not enter.
4) That said, we each have to manage our own risk. Clearly you feel the risk is sufficiently high so that you'll be staying home as long as people aren't wearing masks/social distancing/etc. Kudos to you for that, especially if you happen to be in a high risk cohort (over 65 years old or with certain pre-existing conditions). Clearly others feel safe enough to go out amongst the masses, with or without a mask.

Over the coming days and weeks we'll be seeing how well the cities, counties, states, and country hold up as everything re-opens. Cases are going to go up, hospital use is going to go up, and unfortunately deaths will also likely go up. What remains is to see if we've given ourselves enough time to allow those increases to be managed without over stressing the system or not.

Time will tell just how costly this will be.

 

[Herdman]

I wonder if Disney opening up limited cruise bookings today in August and September is any indicator as far as when they will lessen the mask requirement for the parks? I guess I always assumed that the cruise line wouldn't open back up until it was felt that masks were no longer necessary. I didn't think the market would hold that large of an amount of people that would want to spend the day on a ship in a mask. How would you handle the pools and AquaDuck ride with a mask requirement? Eating on a cruise ship is the number one activity so no mask required then. I would think 9 out of 10 experts would say it is less safe to be on a cruise ship than in an open air park. If they would happen to not require masks at least at times on a cruise ship I'm not sure how they could require it in the theme parks. Just my mind wondering today....haha

 

[SyracuseDisneyFan]

Yes. I have to wear a mask at work and when I go out anyway. I don't see the difference.

 

[legwand77]

At the beaches in the panhandle of Florida it has been business as usual for the past few weeks, typical summer crowds, very crowded, less than 5% of people wearing a mask if even that. Everything is open. Even workers and servers are not wearing masks in some restaurants. Did see workers at Publix still wearing masks. And the six foot rule is not even being observed in the majority of places, maybe in some restaurants with every other table. One would be hard pressed to notice a difference from last year and today. Mask wearing has already started to fade.

 

[MissViv]

At the beaches in the panhandle of Florida it has been business as usual for the past few weeks, typical summer crowds, very crowded, less than 5% of people wearing a mask if even that. Everything is open. Even workers and servers are not wearing masks in some restaurants. Did see workers at Publix still wearing masks. And the six foot rule is not even being observed in the majority of places, maybe in some restaurants with every other table. One would be hard pressed to notice a difference from last year and today. Mask wearing has already started to fade.

This is sad because the #'s are on the upswing in FL. Hope this doesn't cause things to close down again or move backwards.

 

[Goofyernmost]

This is sad because the #'s are on the upswing in FL. Hope this doesn't cause things to close down again or move backwards.

Haven't you heard... the whole thing is a hoax put in place by the martians to weaken our defenses and let them easily take over our world!!!!

 

[Hockey89]

Haven't you heard... the whole thing is a hoax put in place by the martians to weaken our defenses and let them easily take over our world!!!!

stay home and hide. Are people that are fat with high blood pressure more likely to have a bad outcome. You bet. Shocking. Maybe being healthy is a great idea.

 

[Kamikaze]

The numbers don't indicate that this is true:

Florida COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Florida COVID-19 Coronavirus update by county with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, current active cases, recoveries, historical data, trends, projections, and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

It certainly does?

 

[disneygeek90]

The numbers don't indicate that this is true:

Florida COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Florida COVID-19 Coronavirus update by county with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, current active cases, recoveries, historical data, trends, projections, and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

It.... doesn't...?

 

[Goofyernmost]

stay home and hide. Are people that are fat with high blood pressure more likely to have a bad outcome. You bet. Shocking. Maybe being healthy is a great idea.

Yea, like people get unhealthy by choice. That doesn't make any sense at all. So your saying that people with medical problems are at a higher risk they those that are like 25 and in good shape. Duh, why didn't someone tell us that. Who knew that being healthy was such a simple choice. Cancer, asthma, severe allergies, heart defects could have remained healthy just by wanting too? I wish someone would publish that someplace.