Man caught trying to enter Magic Kingdom with gun

King Panda 77

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What doomsday scenario? People having guns in their pockets?
I keep mine up my sleeves :cool:
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OliveMcFly

Well-Known Member
"Deputies said Webb was randomly selected to go through the metal detector into the park."

Well we now know the metal detectors work. If they had randomly selected the person in front of or behind this person there would have been a loaded weapon in the park. Maybe time for everyone to go through metal detectors. It might be quicker than inspecting every individual bag.
That's what I think. When we were in DLR everyone went through them.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Some pregnant women are unaware that magnetometers are passive. They feel that it may harm their unborn child. So, they opt not to go through it.

Depends on the magnetometer some are indeed active as it's easier to detect non-ferrous metals with a active magnetometer and the wands are indeed active devices which create a low frequency AC field and a set of detector coils which in the absence of metal and the presence of the AC field are nulled, The presence of the metal causes the bridge to become unbalanced and the wand squeaks.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
I have the solution to how WDW should do security:
1) Place a large building in front of the TTC, call it the embarkation center. Route all day traffic thru here for all parks (extend monorail.) Design building to parse people into the right destination and then into smaller and smaller groups to minimize the impact of any shenanigans. Then all are checked prior to entering the Disney system and do not need to be checked upon arrival at the parks or when using WDW transportation later in the day. Once through security, as long as you don't leave the system you don't need to be rechecked.

2) At all resorts have security check before entering the hotel and the again before entering into the WDW transportation system. Then same rules apply as above.

The pros of this are that you can consolidate the points of entry into the system, you can standardize policy and procedures, and you can run a closed system that is much more efficient and secure.

*I'd also like to see a castle wall all around the property that is patrolled and monitored.
**I'd also like to see a border crossing style entering property.
***I'd REALLY like WDW to stop parking semi trailers that guests arrived in (as their vehicle) anywhere near the parks, if seen the parked near the enterance of the Studios in the recent past.

If Disney ever implements this level of hassle, well they can kiss their business goodby.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. This is a fallacy. It's hardly ever true. You have no evidence to substantiate your "belief" that the coincidental choice to have him go through the metal detector prevented a shooting inside the park. I have a theory that the more vocal open/concealed carry proponents simply want to be able to bully or scare people by carrying their firearms and use safety as a red herring and I suspect he is one of those people, carrying a weapon to show how "tough" he is and that no one can "mess" with him. The article is a little vague, but he admitted right away that he had a firearm in his pocket. People intent on committing crimes would most likely try to flee or put up a fight.




Which is why most sane, intelligent people see these procedures as nothing more than "theater". It might slightly help prevent a mild disagreement from escalating into a "rage" incident, but it will not stop a terrorist (which is why these procedures were implemented). As has been mentioned before in this thread and by myself and others in other threads, the security checkpoints can just as easily be a target, and possibly be more effective as far as casualties are concerned, more so than a target inside the parks.

The checkpoint is a far softer target which is EASY to hit. Airport checkpoints have been targeted multiple times even back as far as the 'Red Brigades' in the 80's
 

DisneyGigi

Well-Known Member
I would say that I look very not likely to break any rules, if you can judge a book by it's proverbial cover. Shorts, tight tank top and carry no bag anymore, sweet friendly smiling face. I would flat out not smoke before I ever smoke in a non smoking section, and will not break any type of rule.. Lol I went through 6 times I think. Maybe 7. I made a joke of it though, like I was happy to be picked, but I know they were picking way more people to just be random. I don't mind, it is sad, but just the day we live in now. Much rather have a few more minutes, out of my time to know they are checking for nut jobs!
 

TheGuyThatMakesSwords

Well-Known Member
For those of us that go more often, we should be able to get pre-screened, like the TSA. Then we can flash our cards or scan our bands and go right through. :D

JUST to me - all personal opinion, I'm not right, no one else is wrong.....

THIS is not a bad idea at all. Now, in our case? We are both APs and DVC owners. By now, WDW has collected a LOAD of data on us :). To boot? We would PERSONALLY have no issues at all with a private background check. We would PERSONALLY not be upset if there were a FEE for this service - the FAA charges for PRE, so we really could not be upset with a private company analog....

Again - all personal opinion, I'm not right, no one else is wrong.
 

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