Male Cast Member Costumes

[StarWarsGirl]

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[Goofyernmost]

These words don't often appear in the same sentence.

Well, for me the first quarter of it was a disaster, the last part was a bit of a challenge, and the middle was a bit of a blur.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

By that same metric, you can't have Black CMs in Liberty Square or on the Riverboat unless they were playing the role of slaves.

That kind of historical accuracy could never be met.

Over 1/3 of young adults have tattoos. Many potential employees would balk about having to keep their hair and facial hair up to the old standards, and then you'd have a perpetual staff shortage.

The only type-casting for "on stage" CMs should be for M&G look-alikes.

And even then... maybe that shouldn't be a hard and fast rule. When I saw Hamilton on Broadway, I didn't walk out because Black and Hispanic actors were playing the role of White historical figures. The production of Frozen on Broadway and in Disneyland also had 'color blind' casting and people seemed to enjoy the play anyway.

Most people understand the distinction between the actor and their role.


And now, we've pretty much lapped the original thread on this topic. It's a Groundhog's Day Thread!

I guess the question is where to draw the line on costumes in relation to theme?

WDW isn’t a historical reenactment park, but it is a themed environment, that leaves a lot of gray area between the historical extreme of not allowing black characters on main street and the other extreme of letting everyone wear pajamas because it would be more comfortable.

Much of what we discuss here revolves around theme, which is 100% subjective, this falls into that category for me also. Some costume freedom and comfort is a good thing, it’s just a question of how much should be allowed and when does that cast comfort start to become detrimental to the theme of the park?

 

[Lilofan]

Well, for me the first quarter of it was a disaster, the last part was a bit of a challenge, and the middle was a bit of a blur.

Scary thought but the THC in pot now is more intense compared to it was in the 60s and 70s .

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

It's been that way since Goths and Emos became a thing. I grew up in the zeros so I should know.

I work a concert venue and we often laugh that the audiences today mirror what we looked like 30 years ago. The goth “kids” (people under 30) still wear black clothes and eyeliner, the heavy metal kids still have long hair and wear patches, the hippy kids still wear tie dye, the punk kids still wear spikes, etc.

I also chuckle when I hear kids saying they’re going to fix the world because the generations before them screwed it up, which is the same attitude we had as kids, also the same attitude the kids of the 60s had before us.

Different generations in a very different world, but often more alike than different.

 

[TomboyJanet]

Do you also remember when long hair for men peaked in fashion?
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Actually there was a period of time when men wore high heels and that was back in the "good old days" so like why....just whyyy

I work a concert venue and we often laugh that the audiences today mirror what we looked like 30 years ago. The goth “kids” (people under 30) still wear black clothes and eyeliner, the heavy metal kids still have long hair and wear patches, the hippy kids still wear tie dye, the punk kids still wear spikes, etc.

I also chuckle when I hear kids saying they’re going to fix the world because the generations before them screwed it up, which is the same attitude we had as kids, also the same attitude the kids of the 60s had before us.

Different generations in a very different world, but often more alike than different.

Yeah that happens. But the generation right before mine was like if south park was a generation, that would be them. Like they were all edgy nihilists who wanted to just annoy as much people as possible. They were really hard to deal with as students above us and I can only imagine what havoc they've caused already....... I'm looking at you Dominic!

 

[mkt]

Scary thought but the THC in pot now is more intense compared to it was in the 60s and 70s .

And it can easily be purchased in stores.

 

[Riviera Rita]

I wish I could wear my hair long. I had thick, thick curly hair as a child and it was cut short because my mother got fed up trying to get the tangles out. I did have a few years where I wore it shoulder length, then I had a medical condition that destroyed my hair, so I had it cut short and it remains that way to this day. I envy anyone with long hair and please don't judge an older woman with short hair and sensible shoes, I am straight, but, it's not your beeswax anyway.

 

[TomboyJanet]

I wish I could wear my hair long. I had thick, thick curly hair as a child and it was cut short because my mother got fed up trying to get the tangles out. I did have a few years where I wore it shoulder length, then I had a medical condition that destroyed my hair, so I had it cut short and it remains that way to this day. I envy anyone with long hair and please don't judge an older woman with short hair and sensible shoes, I am straight, but, it's not your beeswax anyway.

Hey hey I'm a younger woman with short hair, but I'm bi so whateves. None of that is all that important anymore

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Disney Look is not really gendered, men can wear any color nail polish that a women could.

It used to be gendered. It’s a modern change that some disagree with.

The only type-casting for "on stage" CMs should be for M&G look-alikes.

I disagree. If someone looks like they belong in Frontierland put them in Frontierland! If someone looks a little creepy, put them in mansion or tower.

Are they cast members or employees!?

 

[ppete1975]

I am actually surprised by some of what they allow now. Please understand I am not saying anything is wrong. But Disney the company while being on the forefront for LGBTQ+ used to be extremely strict on costuming. Including hair length and tattoos, and before you think that was the 1960s, no that was until 2021 with tattoos, hair length, piercings, hair coloring etc (even though I doubt most of it was enforced unless it was very noticeable). The dress code to you can wear either costume appears to have changed at the same time as the tattoo, and hair changes.

Disney updates cast member dress code, allows tattoos, gender inclusive hairstyles

Disney is making major changes to its dress and style code policy for its cast members as it moves forward with inclusion.

disneydiary.com

So I can see the poster or anyone being surprised when it seems to have been a flood gate instead of a gradual change.

 

[castlecake2.0]

I am actually surprised by some of what they allow now. Please understand I am not saying anything is wrong. But Disney the company while being on the forefront for LGBTQ+ used to be extremely strict on costuming. Including hair length and tattoos, and before you think that was the 1960s, no that was until 2021 with tattoos, hair length, piercings, hair coloring etc (even though I doubt most of it was enforced unless it was very noticeable). The dress code to you can wear either costume appears to have changed at the same time as the tattoo, and hair changes.

Disney updates cast member dress code, allows tattoos, gender inclusive hairstyles

Disney is making major changes to its dress and style code policy for its cast members as it moves forward with inclusion.

disneydiary.com

So I can see the poster or anyone being surprised when it seems to have been a flood gate instead of a gradual change.

It’s only a flood gate because they resisted change for so long, and it was headed to lawsuit territory. Look up all the airlines that have changed their look recently.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Scary thought but the THC in pot now is more intense compared to it was in the 60s and 70s .

You sure?

 

[mkt]

You sure?

Oh yeah. THC content in the 60s rarely passed 5%. Nowadays a mild strain is 10% THC, and a strong one can surpass 25% THC.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Oh yeah. THC content in the 60s rarely passed 5%. Nowadays a mild strain is 10% THC, and a strong one can surpass 25% THC.

Depended a lot on the "supplier'. Anyway, most of my experience was in the late 60's while in Vietnam. Lord knows what was in that stuff.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Oh yeah. THC content in the 60s rarely passed 5%. Nowadays a mild strain is 10% THC, and a strong one can surpass 25% THC.

Better living through chemistry.

 

[mkt]

Better living through chemistry.

 

[CaptainMickey]

Nothing says Main Street USA like a cast member dude in a dress with long hair and a beard all tatted up! Magic Kingdom is no place special, let's make it look like any street 2023! Who knew, Six Flags was on to something years ago!

 

[Tony the Tigger]

You sure?

Yep. You can buy over-the-counter “Delta 8” which is about as strong as pot was in the 80s.

On my 50th bday I decided to uncharacteristically partake of the new stuff with friends who regularly do. I was a mess, passed out, got sick - never again. What an awful feeling in general. Couldn’t wait for it to be over.

 

[mkt]

let's make it look like any street 2023!

huh. I've yet to see street art murals or vape shops on Main Street.

Guess it doesn't look like any street in 2023.