Main Street U.S.A. hub redevelopment at the Magic Kingdom

[Goofyernmost]

Huh? I go every September- and while busier than septembers past, it is by a mile less crowded than the other months.
Food and wine is one busy time
Atlanta ISD has a week long break somewhere in there- but it still isn't nearly as bad as other months. Only time I've ever seen it more dead than September is the end of January

Did you just go at a weird time or something?

Might have, I just go when the mood strikes me so it is possible, but, I can remember a few years back where it was totally gridlocked in the Small World Area. There were so many people there that no one could move in any directions. And it was HOT... Surface of the sun hot.

 

[Kman101]

The area between Small World and Pan is still horribly congested. Seems to always be no matter when I go.

 

[Andrew C]

The area between Small World and Pan is still horribly congested. Seems to always be no matter when I go.

I think Marty Sklar mentioned this as a design flaw in his book. Bottle neck.

 

[note2001]

I think Marty Sklar mentioned this as a design flaw in his book. Bottle neck.

Universal seems to have copied this bottleneck "feature" over to IOA and uses it in a number of places throughout the park. I think Disney should sue...

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

The area between Peter Pan and Small World has always been a baffling design choice to me. It has two problems. One is the traffic bottleneck it caused. The other is the inferior facade designed for WDW's Small World, and the narrow walkway between the two rides makes it impossible to ever properly replicate the original Disneyland facade (unless they relocate the building entirely).

I don't have many problems with the original layout for MK, but this area is one of those problems.

 

[jt04]

The area between Peter Pan and Small World has always been a baffling design choice to me. It has two problems. One is the traffic bottleneck it caused. The other is the inferior facade designed for WDW's Small World, and the narrow walkway between the two rides makes it impossible to ever properly replicate the original Disneyland facade (unless they relocate the building entirely).

I don't have many problems with the original layout for MK, but this area is one of those problems.

Perhaps IaSW at the MK was meant as a temporary venue. I know by relocating the attraction to WS it would solve problems for both parks. IMO.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

Putting Fantasyland's two most beloved attractions so close along a narrow walkway- what did they expect but a bottleneck?

 

[Goofyernmost]

Putting Fantasyland's two most beloved attractions so close along a narrow walkway- what did they expect but a bottleneck?

That can't be right. All I've ever read on this site is how great the old imagineers were and how awful the new ones are. Make up your minds... were they capable of screwing up or not.

Just a thought on my part, but, I really think that after Walt died, I'm not sure that they felt that WDW would be the huge success that it became. In other words, they never anticipated the numbers of people that would occupy the parks at any given time.

 

[marni1971]

That can't be right. All I've ever read on this site is how great the old imagineers were and how awful the new ones are. Make up your minds... were they capable of screwing up or not.
.

1971 Fantasyland had quite a few flaws.

Imagineering can still be as great as they used to be. Given the right budget and remove the burocracy.

 

[marni1971]

Perhaps IaSW at the MK was meant as a temporary venue

It was not.

 

[Clamman73]

The area between Peter Pan and Small World has always been a baffling design choice to me. It has two problems. One is the traffic bottleneck it caused. The other is the inferior facade designed for WDW's Small World, and the narrow walkway between the two rides makes it impossible to ever properly replicate the original Disneyland facade (unless they relocate the building entirely).

I don't have many problems with the original layout for MK, but this area is one of those problems.

More people should take the Skyway.

 

[rnese]

I think the reason there are no trees is so there's plenty of room for the..........................BIG...BLUE...HAT!!!

 

[jt04]

It was not.

I know. I just try not to miss the opportunity to advocate for the attraction to be relocated.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Is this project done yet???? It's taking a long time and considering it's dead center of the park???

Actually, it is taking this long BECAUSE it is in the Center of the park. Working around an active park is a nightmare.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I know. I just try not to miss the opportunity to advocate for the attraction to be relocated.

Maybe they will have their 100 year flood and the whole thing will just float over to Epcot!

 

[marni1971]

Maybe they will have their 100 year flood and the whole thing will just float over to Epcot!

Or the MK parking lot...

 

[NH Disney Dad]

Actually, it is taking this long BECAUSE it is in the Center of the park. Working around an active park is a nightmare.

It's a no-win situation for Disney since there is no off-season for the parks. Sure, there are "off-peak" times but it's ALWAYS going to be busy. It also doesn't help that we're an instant gratification society. I hate it just as much as the next guy. I drive my family from NH to Disney just about every year, and it stinks to deal with it as part of our experience, but it is what it is, we expect it, plan for it, and know it's for the better. It'd be nice to be a local family and not have it be as big of a deal, but like I said, it is what it is and there's more to Disney World than just the Hub. DAK is walled up all around too, but there are going to be growing pains for a series of parks that will forever be expanding. I try to look at it optimistically.

 

[ParksAndPixels]

It's a no-win situation for Disney since there is no off-season for the parks. Sure, there are "off-peak" times but it's ALWAYS going to be busy. It also doesn't help that we're an instant gratification society. I hate it just as much as the next guy. I drive my family from NH to Disney just about every year, and it stinks to deal with it as part of our experience, but it is what it is, we expect it, plan for it, and know it's for the better. It'd be nice to be a local family and not have it be as big of a deal, but like I said, it is what it is and there's more to Disney World than just the Hub. DAK is walled up all around too, but there are going to be growing pains for a series of parks that will forever be expanding. I try to look at it optimistically.

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[NH Disney Dad]

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Oh, don't worry, I can bring the proverbial "pessimistic heat" if I need to. Haha.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

In thinking about this issue, this is one of the many improved areas regarding design and people flow at DLP. Both attractions (Peter Pan and IASW) are apart from each other, and Pan is moved to its own building out of the way from the castle courtyard and widely used pathways.