Main Street U.S.A. hub redevelopment at the Magic Kingdom

ford91exploder · Apr 13, 2015

betty rose said:
I completely understand where you are coming from I have a love no love relationship with Disney, I really miss when people were treated as people, unfortunately people have changed, mostly it's me. me.. me... and I think Disney has responded. I have grandkids, and kids that love Disney....and so do I for different reasons....I like the space (outside the parks), the warm weather (from Denver, where summer is very short), and flowers of any kind, so few that can survive in our high altitude and dry climate... so I always welcome a Disney vacation....I find other things to enjoy....sure I go on rides with the grandkids....after lunch, it's grandma's and grandpa's time.....enjoying resorts...resting in the air conditioned room, and reading or napping. I'm not a go getter as I used to be....

Some of the best memories in my life were made at Disney both in childhood and adulthood, But the past 5 years or so it's been more about what has been removed from the Disney experience, Too frequently family has gone down and wanted to do a favorite activity and it's no longer there when they are done I'm done as well.

I'm wondering just how many of Disney's regular customers are on the cusp of saying it's no longer WORTH it to vacation at WDW. Disney has pursued a strategy of 'One and Done' because they will not notice the cuts.

Good things don't happen to companies who manage to hack off their repeat customers.

ford91exploder · Apr 13, 2015

Sage of Time said:
Are we talking about the terrible light fixtures with wires all over them? Or something else?

Yes, those BETTER be temporary.

They will be 'temporary' like the SSE wand or the BAH.

Sage of Time · Apr 13, 2015

ford91exploder said:
They will be 'temporary' like the SSE wand or the BAH.

they literally have wires exposed. It's a little different.

Sage of Time · Apr 13, 2015

marni1971 said:
Sure. World Showcase had them since 1982. False rocks, signs and the like. A false shrub (or even a real one covering the box base) would do it. Have a CM stood by it when in motion if needs be.

Or even just telescoping into a regular height lamppost.

When you've seen Disneyland's Fantasmic show rigs retract into the floor - in the middle of the viewing area - a lamppost doesn't seem too hard to do.

To be fair, the Fantasmic rigs are HUUUUGE. You think they'd need to put THAT in the Hub!?

andysol · Apr 13, 2015

Sage of Time said:
To be fair, the Fantasmic rigs are HUUUUGE. You think they'd need to put THAT in the Hub!?

I think he's saying- if they can do it with the massive fantasmic rig, they can surely do it with a light pole.

RandomPrincess · Apr 13, 2015

One reason they might not be able to retract them is the utlidors. There is a level below the hub. When the pole retracts where would they go? In the middle of a tunnel, office?

ford91exploder · Apr 13, 2015

Sage of Time said:
they literally have wires exposed. It's a little different.

Why?, It's stage lighting there are supposed to be wires (not trying to be snarky here just playing devils advocate)

ford91exploder · Apr 13, 2015

RandomPrincess said:
One reason they might not be able to retract them is the utlidors. There is a level below the hub. When the pole retracts where would they go? In the middle of a tunnel, office?

True but there are other options like telescoping masts which could be entirely above ground level, I have a portable antenna tower which is 5' high retracted which is 25' high extended and the thing is rated to support 70 pounds at full extension.

ToInfinityAndBeyond · Apr 13, 2015

DisneySea did a very nice job of hiding light fixtures that are used for shows or only used at night.

"Another nice detail, Disney hid sound and lighting equipment underground and in various structures around Mediterranean Harbor. Then, right before a show begins, trap doors open and up rises large poles with spotlights and speakers attached. Below is an example of one of these structures."

(source: The World According to Jack archives)

marni1971 · Apr 13, 2015

RandomPrincess said:
One reason they might not be able to retract them is the utlidors. There is a level below the hub. When the pole retracts where would they go? In the middle of a tunnel, office?

Aside from the central corridor there are no Utilidors under the hub. It's clear from before the tip board up to the castle.

Like I said, they don't need to go below ground level. But that would be a bonus. But it's a mute point. I'm sure they have some wonderful solution in mind.

marni1971 · Apr 13, 2015

andysol said:
I think he's saying- if they can do it with the massive fantasmic rig, they can surely do it with a light pole.

That I am.

Sage of Time · Apr 13, 2015

andysol said:
I think he's saying- if they can do it with the massive fantasmic rig, they can surely do it with a light pole.

Agreed in full, then.

ford91exploder said:
Why?, It's stage lighting there are supposed to be wires (not trying to be snarky here just playing devils advocate)

Wired look ugly.

NOT TODAY, SATAN.

JediMasterMatt · Apr 13, 2015

marni1971 said:
When you've seen Disneyland's Fantasmic show rigs retract into the floor - in the middle of the viewing area - a lamppost doesn't seem too hard to do.

Martin, you of all people know that ANYTHING in Orlando these days is hard to do.

Vipraa · Apr 13, 2015

The box strikes back

hpyhnt 1000 · Apr 13, 2015

Vipraa said:
The box strikes backView attachment 89756

Hmmm...me thinks work is about to commence on reinstalling the two central Hub planters that were paved over.

RayTheFirefly · Apr 13, 2015

hpyhnt 1000 said:
Hmmm...me thinks work is about to commence on reinstalling the two central Hun planters that were paved over.

Hmm... Hun planters. I think Shan Yu would make a nice addition to the hub.

Vipraa · Apr 13, 2015

hpyhnt 1000 said:
Hmmm...me thinks work is about to commence on reinstalling the two central Hun planters that were paved over.

Yep partners only came out for the busy Easter season. Work is going to start on the south half of the hub now

hpyhnt 1000 · Apr 13, 2015

RayTheFirefly said:
Hmm... Hun planters. I think Shan Yu would make a nice addition to the hub.

Darn typos lol...

Cesar R M · Apr 13, 2015

Sage of Time said:
they literally have wires exposed. It's a little different.

in before Disney starts to charge extra for an "electrifying Magical experience(tm)" :hilarious:

Cesar R M · Apr 13, 2015

RandomPrincess said:
One reason they might not be able to retract them is the utlidors. There is a level below the hub. When the pole retracts where would they go? In the middle of a tunnel, office?

unless they are telescopic.
Aka small parts inside another.

ToInfinityAndBeyond said:
DisneySea did a very nice job of hiding light fixtures that are used for shows or only used at night.

"Another nice detail, Disney hid sound and lighting equipment underground and in various structures around Mediterranean Harbor. Then, right before a show begins, trap doors open and up rises large poles with spotlights and speakers attached. Below is an example of one of these structures."

(source: The World According to Jack archives)

Theres a few videos online showing these..
they look amazing.
some turn sideways, others just rise.

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