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LondonTom

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Its a good job I don't like most of the changes (not that I can realistically justify spending that sort of money 😂).

Also love the fact, that our pleb money isn't even going to be accepted for dinner at the Royal Banquet (Inventions) or the California Grill replacement anymore and they got rid of the Breakfast with Princesses in the park to put it in DLH for guests only. (All in a park, that could do with way more places to dine 😂)

RIP Cafe Fantastia
 
mrflo

mrflo

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Was the refurb necessary? Absolutely. Did they do this thoroughly? Yes. Did they capture or improve the spirit & style of the previous version? For my taste, not really. I am surprised how generic & swanky it now looks - like some location from the "Crazy Rich Asians" movie or a fancy airport lounge. Will some guests still love this version (even more)? I have no doubt it will attract it's crowd.

For me the new DLH has dropped off my list of Disney hotels I want to stay (again). Inventions used to be one of my top 3 restaurants in DLP - even though it was already quite pricey. Now that the temptation of staying or eating there is gone, this should at least save me some money for my next DLP trip.
 
cookiee_munster

cookiee_munster

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wdwmagic said:

Disneyland Paris's Crown Jewel: A Look into the newly revamped Disneyland Hotel​

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Disneyland Paris's Crown Jewel: A Look into the newly revamped Disneyland Hotel

Disneyland Paris's Crown Jewel: A Look into the newly revamped Disneyland Hotel
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"The grand lobby takes inspiration from world-famous European castles, blending materials with touches of ivory and gold alongside unique lighting, sounds, and scents that evolve according to the time of day."

say what now... 😵‍💫
 
HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
mrflo said:
Was the refurb necessary? Absolutely. Did they do this thoroughly? Yes. Did they capture or improve the spirit & style of the previous version? For my taste, not really. I am surprised how generic & swanky it now looks - like some location from the "Crazy Rich Asians" movie or a fancy airport lounge. Will some guests still love this version (even more)? I have no doubt it will attract it's crowd.

For me the new DLH has dropped off my list of Disney hotels I want to stay (again). Inventions used to be one of my top 3 restaurants in DLP - even though it was already quite pricey. Now that the temptation of staying or eating there is gone, this should at least save me some money for my next DLP trip.
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"Generic - It's creative and well-themed for a new generation!"
 
Jordan dby

Jordan dby

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I was lucky enough to stay at the old DLH, a family of 4 (5 actually but one was under 3) for 3 days 2 nights, plus 2 breakfasts and 2 dinners - all character dining - in school summer holidays was just under £1,400. I don't think we will ever see close to those prices again.

Thinking back to my girls at the time, they would have loved that hotel even more had it been styled like this. It was a great hotel (primarily for position, fancy decor is lost when it's that busy) but I agree that for adults forcing the movie IPs everywhere cheapens the disney park magic a bit. There is nothing wrong to a theme that is not directly with characters.

Now with princess dining I wonder what will happen to auberge de cendrillon. We are staying in Feb, already have extra plus meal plans, the new restaurants are for DLH guests only but if we don't get our character dining I'll be a bit peeved.
 
HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
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UNCgolf said:
It's really not generic at all, though -- that's what I like about it.

It's 10000x better than what they're doing at WDW resorts.
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Take out the small Disney-themed detail in most of the rooms pictured and nothing to me suggests these couldn't be dropped into a nice hotel in Anywhere, EU. Take the pictures off the wall at the restaurant and it could be a dining buffet at a nicer hotel in Finland. Not disagreeing that they do look nice, though. What is pictured is far better than what they have done at WDW in the Iger era, pricing aside.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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HauntedPirate said:
Take out the small Disney-themed detail in most of the rooms pictured and nothing to me suggests these couldn't be dropped into a nice hotel in Anywhere, EU. Take the pictures off the wall at the restaurant and it could be a dining buffet at a nicer hotel in Finland. Not disagreeing that they do look nice, though. What is pictured is far better than what they have done at WDW in the Iger era, pricing aside.
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Most of those designs would not be found in regular nice hotel rooms in the EU (at least not any I've stayed in Italy, Spain, France, and England); they're designed (at least to an extent) to look like bedrooms at aristocratic estates (which have sometimes been turned into hotels, so you can find rooms more like these there).

The fact that it's in Paris does make it a bit more generic for the region, I suppose, but those rooms do a pretty good job at evoking a specific feel. They'd be among the very best themed rooms at WDW if they were there.

The one below does look a little generic, although still very nice, but the others are all pretty well themed/detailed for a hotel room. They're just themed more towards kind of fantasy royalty/nobility in general rather than any specific era/setting.

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cjkeating

cjkeating

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I think everyone needs to remember the previous rooms (especially towards the end of their run...) weren't exactly a thematic masterpiece. Yes the common areas followed the theme of Main Street amazingly well but the room were pink with a few random characters (Fantasia, Snow White, Peter Pan) thrown in, in fact I think they were the only Paris hotel rooms with IP?

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mrflo

mrflo

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UNCgolf said:
The one below does look a little generic, although still very nice, but the others are all pretty well themed/detailed for a hotel room.
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But that is one of the actual standard rooms. Are you referring to the suites or club rooms with even more expensive prices?

Of course, those standard rooms don't look like a Hilton, Marriott or else. If you compare the rooms of luxury hotels like the Ritz or Shangri-La in Paris, you can see a resemblance. I would not even be surprised if they hired the same development company of those luxury hotel chains to help with the refurb.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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mrflo said:
But that is one of the actual standard rooms. Are you referring to the suites or club rooms with even more expensive prices?

Of course, those standard rooms don't look like a Hilton, Marriott or else. If you compare the rooms of luxury hotels like the Ritz or Shangri-La in Paris, you can see a resemblance. I would not even be surprised if they hired the same development company of those luxury hotel chains to help with the refurb.
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Probably -- there were several other room photos, but it doesn't specify what they all are. Some of the others don't look like suites, though, they may just be deluxe and/or club level rooms.

It doesn't really change the point regardless. WDW resorts don't have more/better theming in deluxe or club level rooms.
 
Markiewong

Markiewong

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cjkeating said:
I think everyone needs to remember the previous rooms (especially towards the end of their run...) weren't exactly a thematic masterpiece. Yes the common areas followed the theme of Main Street amazingly well but the room were pink with a few random characters (Fantasia, Snow White, Peter Pan) thrown in, in fact I think they were the only Paris hotel rooms with IP?
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This ^, people keep complaining about IP-ficiation of the hotels while the Disneyland hotel was the only original hotel that had Disney characters. They are in the paintings, bed, mirrors, woodwork etc. Even the hotelbar was themed after a Disney movie, but since it was Fantasia most peopel gave it a pass.

UNCgolf said:
Probably -- there were several other room photos, but it doesn't specify what they all are. Some of the others don't look like suites, though, they may just be deluxe and/or club level rooms.

It doesn't really change the point regardless. WDW resorts don't have more/better theming in deluxe or club level rooms.
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I do agree that the rooms look better than most WDW refurbs, some aside. I think they almost fit the exterior of the hotel better than the old ones.

For the record here is the new lineup of rooms.
Superior room (the standard room)
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Deluxe room (new category, similar to the club rooms)
Breakfast and lounge access included
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Castle Club (promoted as 'hotel within a hotel')
I haven't seen any pictures of the rooms yet, but I assume they are the same as the deluxe one. Comes with breakfast, own lounge (not the same as deluxe), private reception and elevator which goes directly to the entrance.

Signature Suites (come with access to the same lounge as the deluxe rooms)
Cinderella/Sleeping Beauty/Tangled/Frozen/Beauty and the Beast

Castle Club Suites
Cinderella/Sleeping Beauty/Beauty and the Beast

Princely- and Royal Frozen Suite
If you really have too much money.

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Added a picture of the Deluxe room lounge, it looks very... stale and boring.
 
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Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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cjkeating said:
I think everyone needs to remember the previous rooms (especially towards the end of their run...) weren't exactly a thematic masterpiece. Yes the common areas followed the theme of Main Street amazingly well but the room were pink with a few random characters (Fantasia, Snow White, Peter Pan) thrown in, in fact I think they were the only Paris hotel rooms with IP?

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I agree, and would also argue that if these hotel rooms are 'generic' then virtually all Disney hotel rooms since they started operating resorts have been generic. It's not like the Polynesian Resort rooms, for example, ever looked like you were staying in the Tiki Room. They have always had to be comfortable and functional.
 
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LondonTom

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Markiewong said:
This ^, people keep complaining about IP-ficiation of the hotels while the Disneyland hotel was the only original hotel that had Disney characters. They are in the paintings, bed, mirrors, woodwork etc. Even the hotelbar was themed after a Disney movie, but since it was Fantasia most peopel gave it a pass.
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Its not the IP-Ficiation as such, its making sure that IP fits and tells a cohesive story (See Cheyenne) No matter how much they mention "Royal" it doesn't really do that throughout the hotel.

No one gave Cafe Fantasia a pass because its Fantasia, its cause it was done tastefully and slotted in nicely with the rest of the hotel.

Personally, I think individually some of the rooms are not actually too bad but as a whole for the entire hotel? It just seems odd.

Anyway, it doesn't matter for most of us as the rumour is that the plebs not staying there will be banned from most of the hotel for the opening months and not just dining 😂
 

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