Magic Kingdom set to break attendance records next week? 7am to 3am operating hours!

[SirGoofy]

I understand that, and that is one of the problems with this thread. If Disney does not release attendance figures how do we know any records are being broken? If they don't release attendance figures how do we know what the old record is.:shrug:

We have no idea. Personally, the only reason I have a hard time believing that a record can be broken is because MK's capacity is much lower than the past due to Attractions being closed, or the attractions that replace them having lower capacities.

Closed without replacement
-Skyway
-Swan Boats
-Keel Boats
-Canoes
-Diamond Horse Shoe
-HoP(currently)
-20K

Lower Capacity
-MILF vs Circle Vision Theater
-Don't quote me on this one but I believe Pooh has a lower capacity than Toad

So yea, I have a hard time believing a record could be broken, but who knows.:shrug:

 

[Master Yoda]

We have no idea. Personally, the only reason I have a hard time believing that a record can be broken is because MK's capacity is much lower than the past due to Attractions being closed, or the attractions that replace them having lower capacities.

Closed without replacement
-Skyway
-Swan Boats
-Keel Boats
-Canoes
-Diamond Horse Shoe
-HoP(currently)
-20K

Lower Capacity
-MILF vs Circle Vision Theater
-Don't quote me on this one but I believe Pooh has a lower capacity than Toad

So yea, I have a hard time believing a record could be broken, but who knows.:shrug:

While you have shown the closures since opening day you have forgotten the additions such as Splash Mountain, Toon Town, Aladin's magic carpets, etc.Something like toon town would add greatly to the capacity numbers of the park as it would be almost solely based on square footage and not on the number of people that could fit on an attraction during one ride cycle.

 

[SirGoofy]

While you have shown the closures since opening day you have forgotten the additions such as Splash Mountain, Toon Town, Aladin's magic carpets, etc.

Splash and Toontown were open before all of the attractions listed closed. Sure, Barnstormer or Minnie's House may not have been around, but their capacities don't come close to matching most of the things I've listed.

EDIT: I also forgot the closing of the Galaxy Theater.

 

[Master Yoda]

Splash and Toontown were open before all of the attractions listed closed. Sure, Barnstormer or Minnie's House may not have been around, but their capacities don't come close to matching most of the things I've listed.

EDIT: I also forgot the closing of the Galaxy Theater.

But were there phase 4 closures when all of that was open? Also when it comes to attractions you will not get anywhere near the numbers that you would for simple guest occupyable square footage.

 

[SirGoofy]

But were there phase 4 closures when all of that was open? Also when it comes to attractions you will not get anywhere near the numbers that you would for simple guest occupyable square footage.

I'm not saying it's not gonna happen. I just feel like MK's capacity has really gone down, making the park seem a lot more crowded.

I was just bringing a counter point I felt was valid.:shrug:

 

[CBOMB]

Steve will tell us in due time.

That would be great if they share those figures with him.

All I want to know is that on April 7, 2009 X number of people entered the MK. Prior to that the record attendance was --,--- set on December 31 1985.

Without those minor little details this thread really has no bearing other than to speculate on how many folks were there today.

 

[hokielutz]

MK at Phase 4 closing to ALL guests today. Havn't seen that happen in a very long time, not even on July 4 or New Year's Eve. Think that record still isn't on? All those records could go - even the one you guaranteed.

Awwww---- Snap!!

 

[CBOMB]

We have no idea. Personally, the only reason I have a hard time believing that a record can be broken is because MK's capacity is much lower than the past due to Attractions being closed, or the attractions that replace them having lower capacities.

Closed without replacement
-Skyway
-Swan Boats
-Keel Boats
-Canoes
-Diamond Horse Shoe
-HoP(currently)
-20K

Lower Capacity
-MILF vs Circle Vision Theater
-Don't quote me on this one but I believe Pooh has a lower capacity than Toad

So yea, I have a hard time believing a record could be broken, but who knows.:shrug:

It all boils down to how are we going to know unless we see some figures.

 

[hokielutz]

Someone on Twitter said just a little while ago that MK was at Phase 4 closing. I think it was the Theme Park Rangers guy, around 40 minutes ago.

I was just trying to picture in my mind what "stroller hell" looks like under these conditions but the thought frightened me too much :ROFLOL:

I'd be more worried about those crazy older folks and their PMV. Those battery carts can do a lot of damage to feet, ankles, and legs of people in a crowd.

 

[Master Yoda]

It all boils down to how are we going to know unless we see some figures.

So if Disney comes out and says that they broke attendance records are we going to assume that they are lying because they do not tell us exactly how many people walked through the gates?

 

[SirGoofy]

So if Disney comes out and says that they broke attendance records are we going to assume that they are lying because they do not tell us exactly how many people walked through the gates?

Personally I wouldn't be 100% sold, but I really don't give a carp, so I would really worry about it.:lol:

 

[hokielutz]

I'm not saying it's not gonna happen. I just feel like MK's capacity has really gone down, making the park seem a lot more crowded.

I was just bringing a counter point I felt was valid.:shrug:

Ok, so how is capacity at a park officially determined?

Is it by the number of rides and their Queue & Load capacities? Or is it total public space in the walkways and general areas? Or, is it a combination of both??

I'm not sure we'll get an answer here unless we hear from a manager who regularly works with these scenarios.

 

[SirGoofy]

Is it by the number of rides and their Queue & Load capacities? Or is it total public space in the walkways and general areas? Or, is it a combination of both??

Both. Plus shops and Dining facilities.

All I know is EPCOT has the highest capacity.

 

[Master Yoda]

Ok, so how is capacity at a park officially determined?

Is it by the number of rides and their Queue & Load capacities? Or is it total public space in the walkways and general areas? Or, is it a combination of both??

I'm not sure we'll get an answer here unless we hear from a manager who regularly works with these scenarios.

If they are going by fire codes then there are a few dozen factors that come into the calculation such as room usage, exit door sizes, hall widths, number of exits, etc. Actual ride capacity (ie 2000 guests per hour) more than likely would not come into play rather the number of people that could fit on the ride in one cycle (ie 20 cars@4 people per car) would be used.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Anyone have any reports on wait times from today?

 

[Duckberg]

MK crowds

If it helps the WDW bottom line and keeps CM's employed :sohappy: Duckberg

 

[lindsey206]

April 19th-26th

Sounds like the next two weeks are CRAZY! Does anyone have any idea about what's being projected for April 19th-26th other than what's on touringplans? Thank you!

 

[fosse76]

Ok, so how is capacity at a park officially determined?

Is it by the number of rides and their Queue & Load capacities? Or is it total public space in the walkways and general areas? Or, is it a combination of both??

I'm not sure we'll get an answer here unless we hear from a manager who regularly works with these scenarios.

When I worked at Six Flags, capacity was reached when the number of guests that was budgeted for the day have entered the park. Since the parks is an outdoor venue, it has a high physical capacity. Parks budget based on projected attendance, so they only have so much food, drink, entertainment and staff on any particular day. If there are any attractions that aren't operating, capacity is reduced. A certain nhumber of shops/restaurants closed, capacity is reduced. There are so many conditions that it really is just a judgment call as opposed to a hard number. But they will try and get as many people in as possible, that's for sure.

 

[bradandsarabr]

"Sounds like the next two weeks are CRAZY! Does anyone have any idea about what's being projected for April 19th-26th other than what's on touringplans? Thank you!"

That Sunday should be just as crowded as MK has EMH til 3 a.m. After that, MK's park hours have yet to be extended to midnight or 1 a.m. So, unless WDW is waiting to pull the trigger, it does not appear that WDW is expecting this kind of crowd.

 

[WDW1974]

While I agree with most of what you're saying here, you can't honestly tell me that the main reason why AA remains a popular attraction is because of what it is rather than its subject matter.

We're in the US and a lot of people eat up the whole American pride thing. Of course people will go see it. I'm more likely to go see American Adventure than O Canada or Impressions de France. I'm American so I'm more drawn to that show.

I am saying AA stands the test of time because it is an amazing attraction ... one with substance ... one that uses technology, but more importantly tells a dramatic, compelling story.

You could do a lousy show about American too ... this isn't it.

So, no, I don't agree with your point.

I also love Impressions de France and feels it stands up well. I'm very afraid of what today's Disney would do to update it after the godawful Martin Short bastardization of O Canada.

~WDW1974: Red, White and Blue Through and Through!~